Help wanted airfield location
Can anyone recognize the airfield where this pic (taken from the internet - credit to the unknown photographer) was taken? It is maybe 1983 whre Hunter T.7 XL600 belonges to the RAF Laarbruch Station Flight!
https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....4b71abd043.jpg |
Looks like Prestwick?
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Don't know how the tower looked like in the 80s but it seems to be different ...!?
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It's definitely not Prestwick. Sorry I can't be more helpful.
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Back again! I'm pretty sure it's Newcastle, have a close look on Google Earth.
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Hello RAFG
Looks like Newcastle Airport , as I remember 99% sure , just google " Newcastle Airport Our History " and see old b/w image , can't link still less > 10 posts regards TFC |
Originally Posted by Rocket Pants
(Post 10694775)
Back again! I'm pretty sure it's Newcastle, have a close look on Google Earth.
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Agreed, it is Newcastle UK. NCL EGNT
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What I remember from that era was that the hunters from 1 TWU went to Newcastle to act as MFF during an exercise - and pissed them off by leaving tramline groves in the taxiways from their pan to the runway.....
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Looks like they haven't painted the buildings since the 1983 picture was taken........... :eek:
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I was trying to figure out why Laarbruch would have had Hunter(s) but then I remembered that Laarbruch was Buccaneers and at Honington we had Hunters also except in camo paint scheme, Hunters were utilised for training crews on to Buccaneers.
One significant difference though, the Buccaneer was built like a brick toilet and could take the fast end arrester gear, the Hunter wasn't and could only take the slow end gear except that one day a pilot forgot that! |
by leaving tramline groves in the taxiways
I presume that you mean damage caused by the gear and, if so, I am a bit surprised as the Hunter was not known for being harsh on taxiways/runways etc. In my 8 yerrs of flying this lovely aircraft and operating out of numerous bases I never experienced this. HW Can you clarify your last post re 'arrester gear'? The RAF Hunters never had hooks so there was never an issue over which RHAG/PUAG to take. Do you mean the arrester barrier? Once again. for obvious reasons. the overrun barrier could have been the only option. I only know of one approach end barrier engagement and that was survived due to the brute strength of the F4. The subsequent circuit (at night) was quite spectacular due to the light show caused by the shredding bits of barrier being burnt by the F4's reheat. Why they didn't eject is another story. |
Hunter T Mk8 for Navy had `ooks,but only for runway arrester gear...
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Slightly confused here. Presumably the F4 in question was the Phantom not the Hunter F4?
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Originally Posted by VictorGolf
(Post 10696488)
Slightly confused here. Presumably the F4 in question was the Phantom not the Hunter F4?
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Thanks nipva. Quite a story. Could have been a very expensive hi-fi!
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Was it a Bang and Outsen?
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One more time looking for the location and for the date of these Jags of IISqn RAF Laarbruch. Photo from the internet, photographer unknown,
Bloodhounds in the background. Number Tailscode were used from July 1980 on. Anyone an idea? https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....05ebe22da8.jpg https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....d5135a2de4.jpg |
maybe Wattisham?
C-Flight of 25Sqn (former Laarbruch) moved over in Oct.1981. Were the Bloodhounds built up there again? |
Originally Posted by RAFG
(Post 10712199)
maybe Wattisham?
C-Flight of 25Sqn (former Laarbruch) moved over in Oct.1981. Were the Bloodhounds built up there again? But they were some distance from the aircraft aprons, in fact the only hardstanding where I reckon you could photograph Jags with Bloodhounds in the background would have been the 23 ORP. |
So it`s quite sure that this is Wattisham?
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Originally Posted by RAFG
(Post 10712313)
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Finningley 1967 BoB display.
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Originally Posted by RAFG
(Post 10712178)
One more time looking for the location and for the date of these Jags of IISqn RAF Laarbruch. Photo from the internet, photographer unknown,
Bloodhounds in the background. Number Tailscode were used from July 1980 on. Anyone an idea? https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....05ebe22da8.jpg https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....d5135a2de4.jpg The inset image is from 1993 where Canberra WJ636 was positioned at Wyton. Note the part of the Bloodhound radar tower and the buildings behind the fence? See following link for W636 image https://www.jetphotos.com/photo/7052106 https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....308109ffd8.jpg https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....87263900af.jpg Google Map link https://goo.gl/maps/Fmx4z23CPy8R8uSn7 xz3_22_jaguar_gr_1_raf_07_80_01_03_83_013830872ed7c944838c11ea5ecd3105ebe22da8.jpg xz361_25_jaguar_gr_1_2sqn_raf_07_80_01_03_83_6f98712f9b9bce615cc8674acee313d5135a2de4.jpg The above are the image file names. It looks like it could be 1st March 1983 or the 07 80 for July 1980? |
Originally Posted by TEEEJ
(Post 10714018)
Could it be RAF Wyton?
I think the originator of the question has lost interest. They logged on a couple of days ago, in time to read my post answering their Canberra "where/when" question (but didn't acknowledge it) and haven't reappeared since. I'm not inclined to spend any more time on other queries from the same source. |
Originally Posted by nipva
(Post 10695439)
by leaving tramline groves in the taxiways
I presume that you mean damage caused by the gear and, if so, I am a bit surprised as the Hunter was not known for being harsh on taxiways/runways etc. In my 8 yerrs of flying this lovely aircraft and operating out of numerous bases I never experienced this. HW Can you clarify your last post re 'arrester gear'? The RAF Hunters never had hooks so there was never an issue over which RHAG/PUAG to take. Do you mean the arrester barrier? Once again. for obvious reasons. the overrun barrier could have been the only option. I only know of one approach end barrier engagement and that was survived due to the brute strength of the F4. The subsequent circuit (at night) was quite spectacular due to the light show caused by the shredding bits of barrier being burnt by the F4's reheat. Why they didn't eject is another story. |
Originally Posted by Phileas Fogg
(Post 10716878)
Hunter T8's, operated by the RAF, had hooks.
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Originally Posted by DaveReidUK
(Post 10717032)
The T.8 did indeed have a hook, but are you sure the RAF ever operated any ?
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Originally Posted by nipva
(Post 10717278)
I think that you will find that HHA's XF995 briefly served as a T8C with the Buccaneer OCU at Honington but this would appear to be the only T8 ever to see any form of RAF service.
Aerial Visuals - Airframe Dossier - Hawker Hunter T.8, s/n WV322 RN, c/n 41H-670792, c/r G-BZSE It always confused me seeing images of RAF T.7s with tail hooks. I was reading Flight Craft 16: The Hawker Hunter in British Service by Martin Derry and Neil Robinson recently and that book suggests some T.7s ended up with T.8 tails.The book seems to suggest that during maintenance the tails of the two types were sometimes swapped about hence some T.8s without hooks and vice versa? Would that be the case? For example WV318 images showing with and without tail hook. https://abpic.co.uk/pictures/registration/WV318 XL568 with tail hook https://www.aviationphotocompany.com...C6DB#h3dc5c6db |
The T8's were developed for the RN for training Buccaneer crews, when the RN Buccaneers went to the RAF one might presume that the T8*'s also went as part of the package
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...sion_units#237 https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....50177a3be8.jpg |
Thanks for the additional info on the T.8Cs at Honington/Lossie.
Originally Posted by TEEEJ
(Post 10717938)
It always confused me seeing images of RAF T.7s with tail hooks. I was reading Flight Craft 16: The Hawker Hunter in British Service by Martin Derry and Neil Robinson recently and that book suggests some T.7s ended up with T.8 tails.The book seems to suggest that during maintenance the tails of the two types were sometimes swapped about hence some T.8s without hooks and vice versa?
Would that be the case? https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....737f658038.jpg |
Thanks, Phileas and Dave :ok:
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'some T.7s ended up with T.8 tails'.
I presume that, in this instance, the hook would be inoperative due to the lack of wiring. |
We had one at Farnborough which, when dropped, could not be retracted again by the pilot; I think it was XF321.
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T8 hooks can only be reset by groundcrew,after they've been operated.....
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IIRC both 12 and 208 at Lossie had (the use of) T7s as SCT machines in the mid 80s. Not sure if they were borrowed/shared with/from each other or the OCU.
57 minutes around “Moon Country” with an Aussie Exchange Pilot (DS?) on 208 in ‘318. |
Originally Posted by DaveReidUK
(Post 10716678)
Your guess is as good as mine.
I think the originator of the question has lost interest. They logged on a couple of days ago, in time to read my post answering their Canberra "where/when" question (but didn't acknowledge it) and haven't reappeared since. I'm not inclined to spend any more time on other queries from the same source. |
Thanks TEEEJ and all others for your help!
No Dave, I have not lost interested in this threat I started! But as being quite ill for some time and doing research as a hobby, I am not using pprune every day! Would be very nice to get more assistance with further photos! regards Steffi |
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