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Shaman 24th Jan 2020 20:04

Two Engine B707 31st March 1992
 
On the 31st March 1992, a B707 lost two engines (literally) near the top of climb over France.

The a/c was 5N-MAS. The Captain was Swedish, the FO and FE were British.

The FO had the presence of mind to take a photograph of the wing with the two missing engines. Anyone able to post a copy of it?

Does anyone know the crew involved and what they went on to do after this?

The accident report can be found here

treadigraph 24th Jan 2020 20:19

First Officer was Martin Emery.

Herod 24th Jan 2020 20:49

The stuff of nightmares. IMC to boot. Brilliantly handled by all the crew. I hope someone has a picture.

The Banjo 24th Jan 2020 21:31

https://aviation-safety.net/database...?id=19920331-0

capngrog 24th Jan 2020 21:40

I was able to find this link to an overhead photograph of the aircraft (after it landed) and the CVR transcript. There's not much left of the right wing.

The link:

https://www.tailstrike.com/310392.htm

Cheers,
Grog

capngrog 24th Jan 2020 21:56

Here's a link to the entire accident report in French. If you scroll down to near the bottom, you'll see a series of 21 photographs of the aircraft, details of the fire damage and closeup photos of classic metal fatigue in engine pylon attachment points. The crew and passengers of 5N-MAS were both VERY lucky and VERY skilled. Although I realize that much, if not most, of the fire damage shown on the right wing was post-landing, I don't think that wing would have been able to produce enough lift to prevent a loss of control for much longer. There are also pronounced scorch marks on the right(starboard) aft fuselage and the right(starboard) horizontal stabilizer tip.

The link:

https://www.bea.aero/docspa/1992/5n-...n-s920331.html

Cheers,
Grog

Flexable 24th Jan 2020 22:32

Quite a story, thanks for sharing.

tdracer 24th Jan 2020 22:37

There was a 'single engine' 707 during a Boeing Flight Test back in 1959. Doing severe Dutch Roll maneuvers they managed to rip off three of the four engines. With only one engine, they couldn't make an airport and did a crash landing along the Stillaguamish River near Oso, Washington (~50 miles north of Seattle). Four fatalities (all on the flight deck), four survivors who moved to the tail in preparation for the crash landing.

https://www.historylink.org/File/20411

megan 25th Jan 2020 02:25

Aircraft was over 30 years old with 60,000 hours, ex PanAm, Iran Air, Uganda Airways, Dan Air, converted to freighter and passed through a number of hands on North Atlantic freight runs. Finally with Nigerian Trans-Air Limited. At the time carrying 40 tons of mining equipment bound for Esso in Lagos.

Captain Ingemar Bergelund, 25,000 hours, 10 years 707
F/O Martin Emery, 16,000 hours, 50% on multi jet
E/O Terry Boone, over 18,000 hours on the 707

Just the sort of experience you need. Notable that the F/O took a photo of the wing, he didn't expect they were going to survive, with the hope the film would survive the crash and investigators would have evidence of accident cause. Talk about cool under pressure.

rog747 25th Jan 2020 06:41

Built 1964 as N794PA for Pan Am, she served with them until 1973. Aries Air Cargo & Iran Air leases followed; then in 1977, she went to Uganda Airlines.
she then went onto the UK register with Scimitar Airlines, IAS Cargo and Tradewinds.
Her final stop was to Trans Air Services of Nigeria, as 5N-MAS in February 1992. She was W/O on 31/03/92 flying Frankfurt - Kano. She made an emergency landing in Istres, France when her No. 4 engine separated during flight.

DaveReidUK 25th Jan 2020 06:45

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Originally Posted by tdracer (Post 10670773)
There was a 'single engine' 707 during a Boeing Flight Test back in 1959. Doing severe Dutch Roll maneuvers they managed to rip off three of the four engines. With only one engine, they couldn't make an airport and did a crash landing along the Stillaguamish River near Oso, Washington (~50 miles north of Seattle). Four fatalities (all on the flight deck), four survivors who moved to the tail in preparation for the crash landing.

https://www.historylink.org/File/20411

Acceptance flight for Braniff.

FlexibleResponse 25th Jan 2020 07:02

You might get lucky here:


The first officer First he just noticed the loss of the outboard engine. He was in charge of the radio traffic and guided the captain to the intended runway thanks to the headings given by the ATC control and asked the flight engineer for the execution of the "emergency operating procedure" checklist. Finally, when he saw the Istres runway, he asked for information on the nature of the ground and the length of the runway. Conscious that the aircraft had limited manoeuvring, he suggested operating a counter QFU circuit to the left. He advised the captain to keep a minimum 200 kt speed and helped during the landing by holding the left engines power handles. For the completion, he also had time to take a picture, in flight, of the right wing leading edge where engine n°4 had disappeared ...(Flight International 4/10 November 1992).


https://www.bea.aero/uploads/tx_elyd.../5N-MAS-EN.pdf

Shaman 25th Jan 2020 10:32

Thank you to everyone who has posted replies. The skill shown by the crew was outstanding and a great example of CRM before I had even heard of CRM!

HolyMoley 25th Jan 2020 13:09

I remember shortly after it Martin coming into the flying club at Biggin and showing us the photo he’d taken. Interesting chap.

Caboclo 25th Jan 2020 15:10


]Aircraft was over 30 years old with 60,000 hours,
Hmm, I’m currently flying 50 year old planes with 70,000 hours. :eek:

TCU 25th Jan 2020 18:10

Didn't know about 5N-MAS. What a splendid outcome.

The loss of an engine and the outer part of the starboard wing of Boeing 707 N761PA, operating Pan Am 843 in June 1965, was rather impressively captured by passengers, Mr & Mrs Richmond


Shaman 25th Jan 2020 19:21

TCU - thanks for the info and link - I did not know about that one at all; and to have a video of the event as well long before the introduction of smartphones etc etc......

tdracer 25th Jan 2020 23:45


Originally Posted by TCU (Post 10671434)
Didn't know about 5N-MAS. What a splendid outcome.

The loss of an engine and the outer part of the starboard wing of Boeing 707 N761PA, operating Pan Am 843 in June 1965, was rather impressively captured by passengers, Mr & Mrs Richmond

I remember seeing the passenger video on the nightly news back when it happened - stunning stuff for a 10 year old kid (that was years before I decided to go into aero engineering for a profession).
There are stills from that video in one of my aviation textbooks.

GreekPilot747 26th Jan 2020 08:18

Ingemar Berglund was hired by a greek start-up charter airline in Summer 1993. The name was Ikaros Airlines.
I was also hired by this outfit at the time. The airline unfortunately never started operations.
We did the training for the A320 at the same time in Toulouse. Ingemar went through the training for the A320
with success. As the airline never took off, I lost track of him. He showed me pictures and told me the story first hand.
That was one admirable feat to get that airplane on the ground without fatalities. He also had an aerial view of the wreckage,
as they touched down at very high speed and departed the runway into the grass.

DaveReidUK 26th Jan 2020 10:32

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Originally Posted by TCU (Post 10671434)
The loss of an engine and the outer part of the starboard wing of Boeing 707 N761PA, operating Pan Am 843 in June 1965, was rather impressively captured by passengers, Mr & Mrs Richmond

CAB Aircraft Accident Report:




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