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olympus 26th Jan 2020 11:42

Anyone know what became of Martin Emery? I remember he checked me out in a Cherokee that I was hiring from Blackbushe in the early seventies.

Shaman 26th Jan 2020 11:57

Some additional information about the flight and Martin here

tspark 26th Jan 2020 20:22

The full story was in article/interview by Bob Grimstead with Martin Emery in the October 1994 edition of Pilot magazine !

Harry Wayfarers 29th Jan 2020 06:46


Originally Posted by tspark (Post 10672327)
The full story was in article/interview by Bob Grimstead with Martin Emery in the October 1994 edition of Pilot magazine !

I doubt that it was the full story but Martin Emery's somewhat imaginative version of events, I knew Martin as long ago as 1979 at Laker, I met him again in Ostend in the 90's, he hadn't changed, mmm ... I wonder why he never got a command!

As per a previous PPrRuNe thread of this flight, years ago, a post was made that Martin hadn't stop talking about the story ever since, there were five personnel on board with Martin literally being the radio operator, Martin tells the story to anyone that will listen, he's had his five minutes of fame, the remainder of the crew were telling more truthful accounts and normally over a beer, I heard the account in an Irish bar in Ostend.

Fly.Buy 11th Feb 2020 06:57

From memory the stranded passengers on Panam flight 843 waited for a replacement fight. It duly arrived but either the nose gear collapsed or the tyres burst on landing within their sight. Some of the passengers decided that they had enough flying for the day and elected to get a coach home!

icemanalgeria 7th Feb 2024 19:52


Originally Posted by HolyMoley (Post 10671225)
I remember shortly after it Martin coming into the flying club at Biggin and showing us the photo he’d taken. Interesting chap.

I met Martin in the flying club at Leeds Bradford too very interesting guy, what happened to him? Anyone know where he is now ?

treadigraph 7th Feb 2024 20:18

Sadly Martin died in September last year. Don't know anything further but a little about him here:

https://forums.flyer.co.uk/viewtopic.php?t=124435

Mach Jump 7th Feb 2024 20:42

I met Martin, many years ago, when we shared a table at the greasy spoon staff cafe on the Southend north side. We were both hanging around, waiting for something, or someone, as you often do in our world, and he told me the whole story.

I thought it was an elaborate fairy story, at first, but then he showed me the photograph of the wing, sans engines!.

He told the story with a great deal of wit, and humour, often associated with events like these. Just two of the amusing details were,1, No one at Boeing had ever been pessimistic enough to calculate an appropriate threshold speed for a two engines out, no flaps, no slats, landing with a 30kt tailwind! And 2. As the aircraft finally came to a halt, after careering across the grass, he looked out of the window, and there was a sign saying 'DO NOT PASS THIS POINT'.

As is often said in other circumstances, you couldn't have made it up!

MJ:ok:

bobward 8th Feb 2024 14:42

I have a feeling this story was covered by Air Crash Investigation on Discovery Channel last year.
Thy also did a programme on a KC135 misplacing two engines on a Desert Storm sortie. Huge credit to both crews for getting down in one piece.

rog747 8th Feb 2024 16:28


Originally Posted by bobward (Post 11592994)
I have a feeling this story was covered by Air Crash Investigation last year.
T.

We have it aired on Nat Geo here in the UK and that one was the 707 over France that lost 2 engines (Transair 671)

S22 E04 "Double Trouble" Trans-Air Service Flight 671
Nat Geo episode


First_Principal 12th Feb 2024 18:57

To answer the original question, here's the photograph:



https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....ff5058db2e.png

Shaman 16th Feb 2024 18:07

Thank you very much for the photo.


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