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Asturias56 25th Nov 2019 08:30

"Why 4 hours;has there been a rule change?"

The mods don't want a small group of people to monopolise the forum so there is a 24 hour rule of some sort see post # 17691 and before about 2 weeks ago.

"Reply all you like - just no one confirms as correct or otherwise for 24 hours. Rob (PPRuNe Towers Dep Chief PPRuNe Pilot)"

Asturias56 28th Nov 2019 09:55

does the 24 hour rule still apply?

"Reply all you like - just no one confirms as correct or otherwise for 24 hours. Rob (PPRuNe Towers Dep Chief PPRuNe Pilot)"

Flap40 17th Dec 2019 09:41

Posts about 24 hour rule
 
Not saying that this is right or wrong but haven't we got this 24hr thing the wrong way round? What is the point of waiting 24hrs to confirm when the same person will 'win' anyway?
Surely it would be better to have a 24hr limit on 'regulars' after an open house declaration to give newbies/others a chance to post something.

I'll be back in 23hrs 45 mins to declare the winner.

Asturias56 17th Dec 2019 10:31

I agree that makes more sense - maybe a 24 hour wait for anyone who has "won" in the last 7 days?

if others agree we could approach the Mods - carefully..................

Kit Sanbumps KG 18th Dec 2019 20:46

This business of ‘I know the answer but I’m not going to say’ is utterly ruining this thread. It’s why I deleted my posts and left. (Along with the indecipherable and unenforced 24-hour mystery rule).

(By the way, obviously I know the answer, but I’m not going to say it).

Self loading bear 4th Jan 2020 20:35

You are very quick by filling the Open house.
Although I do not question the right answer by Meleagertoo and the following open house, it could be that Kildress has something interesting about the Sperrin.

Although we have not agreed on a set of rules,
there is a directive from a moderator.

Some of the “regulars” have translated the directive into:
“Regulars” wait 24 hours with filling an Open House in order to give followers in different time zones a chance to post a challenge.
”Regulars” wait 24 hours with answering explicitly on a challenge in order to give non-regulars and followers in other time zones a chance to enjoy the search for the challenges.
”Regulars” are posters who have won a challenge or posted on an OH in the week before.

We can of course discuss the proposed time periods, but there is reasonable logic in this.






Kit Sanbumps KG 4th Jan 2020 21:26

I find few things as offputting as the ‘regulars’ posting along the lines of, ‘I know what it is but I won’t say’. It makes the whole episode seem pointless. Either it’s a race to a correct answer of there is no race at all.

A proper set of instructions from the moderators - which doesn’t need so much interpretation - would be helpful.

Self loading bear 4th Jan 2020 22:10

Kit,

It is tempting to use easy clues to come to the quickest answer.
But what would then be the value of the chase (and victory)

But if the majority is put off by any comments I will be happy to refrain from any messages till 23:59 after posting of the challenge.

Kit Sanbumps KG 5th Jan 2020 02:18

Hello SLB, good points.

Asturias56 5th Jan 2020 07:33

"I find few things as off putting as the ‘regulars’ posting along the lines of, ‘I know what it is but I won’t say’. It makes the whole episode seem pointless."

Agreed - tho I may be guilty some times - as with Bear's post if you know but want to give someone else a chance just don't post at all until the 24 hours are up.

These threads are under constant mod surveillance and I for one don't want to lose them. They are a haven of decency on a site that is increasing fractious elsewhere. People have been zeroed because he/she just couldn't stay away from the keyboard and was posting non-stop - all great stuff but the effect was to exclude passersby.

If you post a challenge then you have to check it regularly to be able to answer - otherwise taking a few days off isn't a bad idea..............

dook 7th Jan 2020 14:37

This challenge has now been up for just over twenty four hours.

Is it acceptable to now post a guess ?

Asturias56 7th Jan 2020 15:38

yes I think you're in the clear now..............................

dook 7th Jan 2020 16:02

I am no longer sure of these new rules so I shall not.

My answer is no longer a guess but a certainty.

Asturias56 7th Jan 2020 16:34

No its now over 24 hours and no-one else has posted a possible answer so you are clear to post - and if you are correct you can post a new immediately as you've won fair & square

If you were setting up a challenge to someone else declaring OH then you as a regular should wait - at least that's my understanding of how we're currently playing the game................

Senior Pilot 7th Jan 2020 18:28


Originally Posted by Asturias56 (Post 10656059)
No its now over 24 hours and no-one else has posted a possible answer so you are clear to post - and if you are correct you can post a new immediately as you've won fair & square

If you were setting up a challenge to someone else declaring OH then you as a regular should wait - at least that's my understanding of how we're currently playing the game................

My goodness, I really don't want a blow by blow set of rules, but the 24 hour one shouldn't need explaining too many times.

Quite simply, you can post and discuss to your heart's content from the moment a challenge appears, but the declaration of a winner will not occur until 24 hours has elapsed from the challenge post. This applies to all three competition threads: a reference Wiki also covers the airfield thread.

I would emphasise that all threads should respect that this is the Aviation History & Nostalgia forum with an expectation of historic images and/or subjects please.

Clear as mud? :D

Asturias56 8th Jan 2020 06:52

Clear Boss................

meleagertoo 11th Jan 2020 22:52

Ere! I read the new 24hr rules several times before I thought I finally understood it - and after I'd already posted answering this correctly earlier this afternoon, and then guiltily deleted the post to await 24hrs.

Only to find the 'winner' has jumped the starting gun by 10 minutes!

Not much of a rule, this, is it?

Hrrmpf.

;)

Anyway, what article in Flight Global?
Please don't post bait like that without a link or further explanation...

Senior Pilot 12th Jan 2020 01:03


Originally Posted by meleagertoo (Post 10660523)
Ere! I read the new 24hr rules several times before I thought I finally understood it - and after I'd already posted answering this correctly earlier this afternoon, and then guiltily deleted the post to await 24hrs.

Only to find the 'winner' has jumped the starting gun by 10 minutes!

Not much of a rule, this, is it?

Hrrmpf.

;)


meleagertoo this really should not be a problem: I posted this as an explanation last week, maybe you can let me know what is confusing you? I have put the comment about posting in bold, should you have missed it the first time.


Originally Posted by Senior Pilot (Post 10656128)
My goodness, I really don't want a blow by blow set of rules, but the 24 hour one shouldn't need explaining too many times.

Quite simply, you can post and discuss to your heart's content from the moment a challenge appears, but the declaration of a winner will not occur until 24 hours has elapsed from the challenge post. This applies to all three competition threads: a reference Wiki also covers the airfield thread.

I would emphasise that all threads should respect that this is the Aviation History & Nostalgia forum with an expectation of historic images and/or subjects please.

Clear as mud? :D


meleagertoo 12th Jan 2020 12:17

Am I being dense?
you can post and discuss to your heart's content from the moment a challenge appears, but the declaration of a winner will not occur until 24 hours has elapsed from the challenge post.

From explanations elsewhere I understood this to be a ban on answering the challenge for 24hrs after posting to give other time zones a chance.

Are you saying that I can identify the answer before then? If so how/why does it need 24 hrs before declaring a winner? The winner is surely the first to reply correctly. How does a 24 hr moritorium help anyone?


Asturias56 12th Jan 2020 13:11

Snr Pilot says:-

Quite simply, you can post and discuss to your heart's content from the moment a challenge appears, but the declaration of a winner will not occur until 24 hours has elapsed from the challenge post.

So it's the declaration of the winner that drives the 24 hours -

I think it would be a lot easier if we were all restricted to 1 post a day - either answer or challenge - on any specific challenge TBH - that way us obsessives couldn't dominate the thread and newbies would and the far-flung would also get a fair chance - but what do I know?


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