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India Four Two 19th Nov 2019 19:44

sablatnic,

I wouldn't worry about modifying your photo. The fun of this and the other two quizzes, is in searching for the solution and/or posting guesses for the poster to respond to, by posting clues.

The convention adopted by most of the regulars here, is to not use any form of automatic image search. Doing so takes away the fun.

ea200 19th Nov 2019 20:32

That looks like a Finnish flag on the tail and they did have Eindekkers. The fin may be misleading. I think I see left aileron and right rudder which would shorten the view of the fin trailing edge.

sablatnic 19th Nov 2019 21:19

It wasn't Finnish and it wasn't an Eindekker, wasn't even inspired by Fokker
Some of them were exported to the Netherlands.

No matter what I did to my #1 upload, google kept recognizing it - maybe I just trained google. I won't bother then, have fun!

Asturias56 20th Nov 2019 11:09

It isn't Finnish but I think it's Swedish... possibly a Thulin K on skis - based on the Nieuport IVG which they'd imported I think (see below)

https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....3436ef6b43.jpg

sablatnic 20th Nov 2019 12:07

Correct, the Thulin K.

The reason for the dark cross in the rudder is that the photo was shot using an orthochromatic film, which makes the yellow cross look darker than the blue rudder.

Asturias56 20th Nov 2019 13:24

I thought it was just my eyes! But an interesting challenge - Thulin re-engineered (or knocked off) several other types I see.

Try this one:-

https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....bb8b68a51e.jpg

MReyn24050 20th Nov 2019 18:14

Asturias56. Your challenge aircraft was once a float plane I believe?

ATSA1 20th Nov 2019 18:22

looks a bit like a Sopwith Tabloid...some had floats, some had wheels...

Quemerford 20th Nov 2019 21:20

Looks more like a Sopwith Baby, but both it and the Tabloid had squared-off wingtips.

longer ron 20th Nov 2019 21:47

You are getting warmer :)

Asturias56 21st Nov 2019 07:59

I think Longer Ron can probably tell us - he's right - it could also have floats - and most of them weren't built by the original company - who were busy building other things at the time

Quemerford is closer than he/she thinks..... ;)

MReyn24050 21st Nov 2019 14:28

Asturias56 aircraft is a Parnall Hamble Baby Convert. Parnall also produced Hamble Babies, which had some detail differences from the Fairey produced aircraft. The last 74 aircraft were produced by Parnall as landplanes and known as the Hamble Baby Convert.

Asturias56 21st Nov 2019 16:16

It's actually a FAIREY Hamble Baby Convert - Parnall only produced the Baby (which had floats) under sub-contract and then all the Converts (which had could have floats or wheels) but then the Fairey Baby was a significantly re-engineered version of the Sopwith Baby

MReyn has the stick

MReyn24050 21st Nov 2019 18:05

https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....f81049c271.jpg
Thank you Asturias56. Here is the next one:-

India Four Two 21st Nov 2019 19:40

The architecture and the aeroplane make me think of Germany.

sycamore 21st Nov 2019 19:53

Possibly Klemm (Daimler) L20,Porsche engine.... OH if correct

MReyn24050 21st Nov 2019 23:01

I42 German yes. Sorry sycamore this one was not from Klemm, the engine was a 2 cylinder engine.

India Four Two 21st Nov 2019 23:32

I thought it might be a Klemm too. Ah well, back to the search!

SincoTC 22nd Nov 2019 11:47

Hi Mel,

I believe your challenge is Franz Xaver Mehr's Me.3 ?? It looks to be fitted with a 20 hp Ursinus horizontally opposed twin engine. It was built and tested at the Friedrichshafen factory in 1931.

There seems to be some confusion as some sources refer to it as an Erla-3 and say it used a DKW air-cooled inline 2-cylinder, but I think this referred to a later rework of the Me.3 because Erla Maschinenwerk wasn't founded until 1933 and as a joint venture between DKW's Jørgen Skafte Rasmussen and Franz Xaver Mehr who had producedhis earlier designs as Mehr Flugzeugbau Meckenbeuren

MReyn24050 22nd Nov 2019 11:59

Hi Trevor. It is in fact the Mehr Me 1 and the information I have,from the book Historische Deutsche Flugzeuge bis 1945", gives it as being powered by 20 hp Ursinus U2 horizontally opposed twin engine. You have control.


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