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BOAC B747-136 Routes
Anyone have a list of the regular routes out of LHR? East Coast USA obvs but did they ever get as far as LAX or SFO?
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I went to Nairobi on one in '71.
Think I've asked this before but a vague idea we stopped at Frankfurt. Also Entebee but that may have been by VC-10 in '69. |
Johannesburg via Nairobi daily
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I think the 747-136 eventually did the West coast to replace the 707 and VC10 but with a YYC or YEG stop ?
Re NBO/JNB I think it stopped at FCO or FRA (certainly at first) as NBO non-stop was too far They also went to the Middle East - Far East - and Australasia but with oodles of stops Try and find a mid 70's BA time table and that will help you or this https://www.routesonline.com/news/38...ental-network/ Also the LHR-LAX was op'd by ANZ DC-10 30's on a lease with BA until the RR -236 arrived when they took over the West Coast |
I believe that British Airtours did a Gatwick - LAX rotation stopping at Winnipeg outbound (I'm not sure about inbound) and that would probably have been a 136.
I know from a flight deck visit that 136 & 236s were operated by the same crews. I believe that they also had the same pax configuration. I was travelling to Toronto on a 236 which was probably a late substitution. The same could be done in reverse but at the expense of payload for a long distance route. Pan Am operated to the West Coast for many years with 121s although they really weren't really suitable and were very payload restricted. Of course anything operated by a 747 before the 236s arrived in, I believe, 1974 but am happy to be corrected, would have been a 136 operation. |
Originally Posted by Peter47
(Post 10510196)
I believe that British Airtours did a Gatwick - LAX rotation stopping at Winnipeg outbound (I'm not sure about inbound) and that would probably have been a 136.
I know from a flight deck visit that 136 & 236s were operated by the same crews. I believe that they also had the same pax configuration. I was travelling to Toronto on a 236 which was probably a late substitution. The same could be done in reverse but at the expense of payload for a long distance route. Pan Am operated to the West Coast for many years with 121s although they really weren't really suitable and were very payload restricted. Of course anything operated by a 747 before the 236s arrived in, I believe, 1974 but am happy to be corrected, would have been a 136 operation. In 1986 KT obtained G-BMGS (landor) an ex SAS -283B which was then passed to CKT Caledonian |
I stand corrected....
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Late 70's some of the Sydney flights used -136 and stopped in Hong Kong and Muscat BA012 I think..
Normally through Muscat about 0200 local time, but if late, ie. daylight, then it was often too hot to go direct to LHR and a tech stop would be made. I was on one flight that stopped in Athens in the afternoon for two hours without a working APU. After the Iran revolution in Jan 1979, more BA flights used Muscat instead of Tehran. I saw 4 BA 747s on the ramp together one night, I think they were all -136. |
The -136 served Oz until the late 80s! There was a daily service to SYD which stopped both ways at SIN and variously at BAH, AUH or MCT also. Outbound they then fanned out across Oz usually on a shuttle from SYD to BNE, MEL or ADL. There was also a 3 weekly service by -236 from LHR to BOM and PER. Twice a week this flew non-stop to AKL and once via SYD to AKL. Likewise there were a couple of -236 services a week via BKK to SYD. This was pretty much continued until the -436 took over. There was a flight crew base maintained in SYD where a 3 month posting could be had living in rented accommodation and flying the routes around the antipodes and up to BKK and SIN. |
LHR - FRA - BAH - BKK - HKG - DRW -SYD
LHR - ZRH - THR - BOM - SIN - PER - SYD LHR - BAH - SIN - SYD LHR - MCT - SIN - MEL LHR - ZRH - NBO - JNB LHR - NBO - MRU (1 week off for the crew) LHR - THR - BOM - HKG - MEL - AKL JFK - BDA - JFK LHR - BDA - KIN - MEX LHR - ANC - HND Various Caribbean routes NAS ANU BGI The 136's couldn't do LAX or SFO until the 236's came along, so they were left to the Mini fleet (707's VC-10's I have the BOAC menus for most of the above. |
Originally Posted by Flightwatch
(Post 10510829)
The -136 served Oz until the late 80s! There was a daily service to SYD which stopped both ways at SIN and variously at BAH, AUH or MCT also. Outbound they then fanned out across Oz usually on a shuttle from SYD to BNE, MEL or ADL. There was also a 3 weekly service by -236 from LHR to BOM and PER. Twice a week this flew non-stop to AKL and once via SYD to AKL. Likewise there were a couple of -236 services a week via BKK to SYD. This was pretty much continued until the -436 took over. There was a flight crew base maintained in SYD where a 3 month posting could be had living in rented accommodation and flying the routes around the antipodes and up to BKK and SIN. |
Originally Posted by crewmeal
(Post 10510934)
LHR - BDA - KIN - MEX
The smell of jet fuel, mixed with humid tropical air, as I walked down the steps in the afternoon sun at Kindley Field, remains with me today. |
I flew in G-AWNJ as late as February 1990, LHR-Abu Dhabi-Singapore (BA1011).
If I remember correctly the Singapore flights then were normally BA11 and 12 with the -436, but this one was substituted, via Abu Dhabi. Laurence |
Originally Posted by Flightwatch
(Post 10510829)
The -136 served Oz until the late 80s! There was a daily service to SYD which stopped both ways at SIN and variously at BAH, AUH or MCT also. Outbound they then fanned out across Oz usually on a shuttle from SYD to BNE, MEL or ADL. There was also a 3 weekly service by -236 from LHR to BOM and PER. Twice a week this flew non-stop to AKL and once via SYD to AKL. Likewise there were a couple of -236 services a week via BKK to SYD. This was pretty much continued until the -436 took over. There was a flight crew base maintained in SYD where a 3 month posting could be had living in rented accommodation and flying the routes around the antipodes and up to BKK and SIN. Jack |
The 136's couldn't do LAX or SFO until the 236's came along, so they were left to the Mini fleet (707's VC-10's |
I know there was a subfleet of long range B707-336Bs but did the VC10 really beat the original Jumbo on range? |
rog747 and treadigraph
The RAF sent me to Nairobi as a pax on a BOAC 747 in Jan' 72 - definitely a direct flight. |
Originally Posted by Skipness One Foxtrot
(Post 10511594)
I know there was a subfleet of long range B707-336Bs but did the VC10 really beat the original Jumbo on range? |
Originally Posted by Brian 48nav
(Post 10511876)
rog747 and treadigraph
The RAF sent me to Nairobi as a pax on a BOAC 747 in Jan' 72 - definitely a direct flight. - maybe it was the homebound back to LHR that had to stop? |
My pal used to fly them often on the NBO/JNB but am sure he said they stopped at FRA or FCO.... I certainly operated NBO - LHR non stop many times on the 136's |
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