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newt 23rd Feb 2019 19:39

Who else has filled two pages of their logbook in one month?
 
In July 1974 I filled two pages of my logbook! Forty five sorties all first pilot for a total time of twenty eight hours forty minutes on a single seat fighter! I’m sure it’s not a record but would like others to get their logbooks out and check!

dook 23rd Feb 2019 19:55

That's absolutely Frightning Newt. :)

Cows getting bigger 23rd Feb 2019 20:00

My logbook tells me that in May 2010 I recorded 89 flights totalling 58:50. Not as exciting as single seat fighter though - instructional and demonstration flights.

Most hrs in a month was May 2015 at 70:45.

dook 23rd Feb 2019 20:24

Only one logbook then ?

Newt wasn't very good at keeping 'em inboard though.

megan 24th Feb 2019 03:04

Logbook has 23 entries per page, best month was 23 days flying, 25 entries due swap of aircraft on two days, for a total of 134.5 hours (permitted limit 140 hrs/mth)

Ascend Charlie 24th Feb 2019 10:03

August 89, 25 lines of flying per page, filled 3 pages and 1 line of page 4 on instruction, but only 92.4 hrs in it. Rotten little R22, Enstrom and B47.

Pontius Navigator 24th Feb 2019 18:17

Shame really one line per flight. Some WW2 Log book entries were multi line proper entries and a valuable historic record.

Modern entries and to be in a personal shorthand with some items from the auth sheet entry and readable between pilots on the same sqn. Some entries can be decoded by others years later but some will be lost in the mists of time.

dook 24th Feb 2019 20:13

Exactly.

I've got entries of SSPIs in my first logbook.

Newt will know what that means.

Pontius Navigator 27th Feb 2019 18:23


Originally Posted by dook (Post 10399532)
Exactly.

I've got entries of SSPIs in my first logbook.

Newt will know what that means.

Short Sortie Practice Intercepts I guess :)

dook 27th Feb 2019 19:26

No.

Supersonic practice intercepts. Same thing though.

One intercept at M1.3 to M1.5 and run home to land close to minimums.

Pontius Navigator 27th Feb 2019 19:49


Originally Posted by dook (Post 10402240)
No.

Supersonic practice intercepts. Same thing though.

One intercept at M1.3 to M1.5 and run home to land close to minimums.

pulling your leg there.

Digresding as one does, our OC Admin, an Ex Observer and once OC 7, got a ride in a T4 on an exercise hoping to witness an intercept on a Vulcan. They spent a long time at cockpit readiness before the scramble. About 4-5 minutes after take off they intercepted a civvi just off the Blue Way, bingoed and back on the ground PDQ.

sycamore 27th Feb 2019 20:10

Not quite the same...
26/7/`73 ;7 sorties, 5 types,3 airfields,;Bedford,B-Dn,T`Hill..Puma x 2,Hunter 6 x2,Gazelle,Auster 9,Bell47...20 `deck landings`,5 engine-offs currency, 6 normal...4hrs25 m.. Month,,41 `sorties,28h25m,,9 types...

Think our hybrid Lightning 3/6 flew 6 sorties that day,Pete G-J`N was piloting...

BEagle 28th Feb 2019 07:31

Filled 2 pages in June 1990, then 3 pages during July 1990 at ULAS Summer Camp, RAF St Mawgan...

Quietplease 28th Feb 2019 09:48

August 63 110 flights, Sept 63 112 flights.
Of which 69 on JP3 & 4 and 153 on Tutor Grunau T21 T31 and Oly2b

Pontius Navigator 28th Feb 2019 10:59


Originally Posted by BEagle (Post 10402626)
Filled 2 pages in June 1990, then 3 pages during July 1990 at ULAS Summer Camp, RAF St Mawgan...

I guess you shut down each time to change pax. Did you get out each time?

Once flew with John Elias. We landed at Bitteswell, shut down and had a picnic lunch on the grass outside the shed, finally departed . JE declared the whole time to Lossie and return as one trip.

Steepclimb 28th Feb 2019 13:13

In June 2010. I made 82 take offs and landings. A total of 45 hours spread over 11 days of the month. 33 of which were logged in one week. On one day I logged 8:25 hours for fifteen loads for a total of 15 hours that weekend.

All single engine. Skydive flying of course. I'm pretty sure many skydive pilots could more than top that.

Not nearly as impressive as in a fast jet. Could never top the OP's stat.

dook 28th Feb 2019 13:26

I managed one trip in one day.

6hrs 20mins in a Newt aeroplane. Six refuelling brackets, one of them in cloud for 20 minutes. I couldn't even see my wingman on the other wing of the tanker.

That's rather tiring I can tell you.

Steepclimb 28th Feb 2019 19:58


Originally Posted by dook (Post 10402958)
I managed one trip in one day.

6hrs 20mins in a Newt aeroplane. Six refuelling brackets, one of them in cloud for 20 minutes. I couldn't even see my wingman on the other wing of the tanker.

That's rather tiring I can tell you.

I'll bet the first beer went down very well after that. More than once did I crawl out of the cockpit. Aching everywhere, sand in the eyes, removing the clamp around my head and trying to trying to restore circulation in my arse. Often there was no beer, just a an hour and a half's drive home. Then do it all again 8 hours later.
Masochistically I did rather enjoy it.

dook 28th Feb 2019 20:01

I would love to know what aeroplane that was.

Steepclimb 28th Feb 2019 20:12

Boringly an Airvan. What's a Newt? Pure stick and rudder flying though.

dook 28th Feb 2019 20:15

Newt (the OP) and I flew Lightnings.

Fareastdriver 28th Feb 2019 20:19

Wimps:

June 1989. 76.35...July 79.10... Aug 79.15... Sept 81.35... Nov 102.55... Dec 33.20. Xmas and leave...Jan 1990 88.35...Feb 65.40. (Short month).

All offshore North Sea on Super Puma.

Steepclimb 28th Feb 2019 20:19


Originally Posted by dook (Post 10403299)
Newt (the OP) and I flew Lightnings.

I applied to join the RAF just to fly Lightnings. Curiously they didn't agree with my enthusiasm. But flying is flying.

megan 1st Mar 2019 00:21

Two weeks flying Sep '70 54:10, Oct 122:15, Nov 91:25, Dec 109:25, Jan 88:25Feb 91:55, Mar two weeks flying 85:05, Apr 134:30, May 115:00

Fareastdriver, You wimp ;) Best day/night was Xmas eve 12:30 (10:00 night) flying top cover for President Thiệu while he spent the night with the troops at a FSB.

Octane 1st Mar 2019 02:32

How do crop duster pilots log their days flying? Each take off and landing, there could be dozens?

Fareastdriver 1st Mar 2019 08:59

I appreciate that you were flying your backsides off in Viet Nam. At he same time as your war in Nam I was flying in our war in Borneo. We didn't fly so many hours as you did.

We didn't need to.

We were winning our war.

BEagle 1st Mar 2019 09:47

dook / newt, remember this?


spekesoftly 1st Mar 2019 11:26

In the EE Lightning promo film above, I was intrigued by the tyre 'block' tread pattern shown at about 3:35. Was this normal?

Steepclimb 1st Mar 2019 12:47


Originally Posted by Octane (Post 10403512)
How do crop duster pilots log their days flying? Each take off and landing, there could be dozens?

Don't know about cropdusting. But when dropping skydivers on busy days. I'd group three or four loads as one flight because they were hot turnarounds and the engine wasn't stopped. Touchdown to wheels off averaged about 4 minutes. I'd imagine it would be similar.

Pontius Navigator 1st Mar 2019 13:28


Originally Posted by dook (Post 10403299)
Newt (the OP) and I flew Lightnings.

Slightly different, what was your shortest flight full to empty?

dook 1st Mar 2019 15:03

BEagle - cheers. Difficult to forget that jet.

spekesoftly - that tread pattern was not normal.

PN - I can't remember exactly, but it would have been about twenty minutes. Night scramble from Wattisham for suspect contact north of Heathrow. Told to maintain 5000ft and expedite, hence about 620 IAS.

Fortunately contact identified shortly afterwards so went home a bit slower and higher.

Octane 1st Mar 2019 16:08


Originally Posted by dook (Post 10403943)
BEagle - cheers. Difficult to forget that jet.

spekesoftly - that tread pattern was not normal.

PN - I can't remember exactly, but it would have been about twenty minutes. Night scramble from Wattisham for suspect contact north of Heathrow. Told to maintain 5000ft and expedite, hence about 620 IAS.

Fortunately contact identified shortly afterwards so went home a bit slower and higher.

What was the fuel burn/ endurance at 620 knots low level?!

dook 1st Mar 2019 16:34

Fortunately the aeroplane could hold that speed easily in dry thrust (no reheat).

Unfortunately I can't answer your question accurately because it was almost fifty years ago.

I am happy to be corrected by any other Lightning pilots but I would think about 100-120 lbs per minute total.

The scramble I described above was in a Mark 3, the highest performance version of them all.

Pontius Navigator 1st Mar 2019 20:17

Off hand I think an F4 could manage to empty the fuselage in about 3 minutes if you put your mind to it.

dook 1st Mar 2019 20:21

Even with two Speys full wet that's some going

megan 1st Mar 2019 22:20


We didn't need to.

We were winning our war
We Ozzies were part of that shindig as well. You may have won a non declared war, but did managed to lose an empire. We in Oz take some offence to our treatment going through immigration when visiting the Mother Country, given the blood we have shed in your two world wars. In war there are no winners.

Fareastdriver 2nd Mar 2019 09:39

I agree with you wholeheartedly. I joined the RAF in Salisbury, Southern Rhodesia.

Pontius Navigator 2nd Mar 2019 19:38


Originally Posted by dook (Post 10404221)
Even with two Speys full wet that's some going

easy, only 7k in mains, no transfer from wings or tanks when empty fuselage :)

dook 2nd Mar 2019 20:02

Got it......

Wander00 3rd Mar 2019 10:04

Octane - don't know how cropdusters log their time, but I do know that the late and lamented Peter Charles, author of "Six Feet Over", had about 12000 hours crop dusting in his logbook


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