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Does anyone recognize these ? They are descibed as being fom a DH night-bomber,but as they would not accomodate parachutes,I am extremely dubious ! |
Sound more like passenger seats to me, but will leave it to the experts! Maybe out of a Dove or Heron?
David D |
I've never seen seats like that on a Dove or Heron. Night bomber? Definitely not from a Mosquito. Can I see ashtrays on the armrests? If positively DH, perhaps they're from a Flamingo transport?
EvansB from the What Cockpit days will probably know. |
The board at the underside of the seats suggest a luggage restraint, so it seems that these are pax seats.
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The blurb says 'originally bolted together' which would definitely indicate passenger seats.
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Not Rapide seats either....
Maybe from a Valetta/Varsity/Hastings... |
Ah - a DH Valetta eh ?
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Clearly some aspects of the description on Facebook need to be taken with a pinch of salt. The fact that it's a double seat (with a hinged centre armrest) implies that they must be from a cabin that's at least 3-abreast.
They look a bit austere for either an Albatross or a Flamingo, and you can also see what looks like seat-tray latches on the backs (plus holes for plug-in trays in the armrests), so I think more likely a post-war type - perhaps one of the earlier versions of that famous DH night-bomber, the Comet. :O https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....46f86328a6.jpg https://www.jetphotos.com/photo/8413860 As for "scrapped down in the West Country", well a couple of the RAF's Comet C.2s were broken up at Lyneham, so I suppose if one is a bit geographically-challenged ... |
Bear in mind the RAF fitted rearward facing passenger seats to its passenger aircraft thus explaining the under seat leg restraint.
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They look similar to the Mosquito seat, but missing the slots for the shoulder straps. Mosquito crew didn't wear chutes, hence no recess in the seat pan, they used chest mounted chutes, on the fighter they were stored on the floor ahead of the nav by the entrance door, bomber not sure.
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Originally Posted by megan
(Post 10379546)
They look similar to the Mosquito seat, but missing the slots for the shoulder straps. Mosquito crew didn't wear chutes, hence no recess in the seat pan, they used chest mounted chutes, on the fighter they were stored on the floor ahead of the nav by the entrance door, bomber not sure.
My money is still on pax seats (the tray attachments would support that) and, assuming the DH part is correct, likely from a Comet. |
I agree with Dave, those are not Mosquito seats. Here's a picture of the pilot's seat of (I suspect) KA114 - Avspec's first Mossie. I've sat in both seats in that cockpit and confirm that the nav's seat is further aft, to allow a narrower fuselage without any shoulder overlaps.
https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....4c46c4d260.jpg |
Alo,
The facebook seats are ex-R.A.F. Hastings or Beverly seats. The 'photo from David is of ex-R.A.F. Britannia/Andover seats. Rearwards, alt |
Originally Posted by aloominumtoob
(Post 10380072)
The facebook seats are ex-R.A.F. Hastings or Beverly seats.
Originally Posted by aloominumtoob
(Post 10380072)
The 'photo from David is of ex-R.A.F. Britannia/Andover seats.
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RAF Britannia interiors from my time with 99 Sqn 1959 - 1963. Photos 1 and 2 are looking forward, photo 3 looking to the rear.
https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....5e7f8571ab.jpg https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....bd02d13ee8.jpg https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....cf6c957eba.jpg |
The asymmetric top contour suggests mounting on curved port side of aircraft and in this respect is identical to photos of the offset Mosquito pilot seats online. However, as Megan notes, there's no slot for straps.
Perhaps two pilot seats but modified & joined later? |
Originally Posted by Max Tow
(Post 10380499)
The asymmetric top contour suggests mounting on curved port side of aircraft and in this respect is identical to photos of the offset Mosquito pilot seats online. However, as Megan notes, there's no slot for straps.
Perhaps two pilot seats but modified & joined later? The reason the top of one of the seats appears slightly higher is simply that the other seat is missing a back leg (you can just discern the bracket to which it would have been bolted in photo #6) and is therefore tilted back a bit more. |
"I don't see any asymmetric top contour". Really? If you look closely, there is a definite angling in of the right side of both the seat backs in the photo (i.e. to the occupants left side) which is presumably to fit a tight fuselage or canopy side contour. Possibly the reported joining might be a red herring, i.e. these might be two individual pilot seats which have been modified, otherwise why contour both? Plenty of photos online of Mosquito pilot seats with similar backs but hopefully someone from Salisbury Hall will come along to confirm or deny!
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Originally Posted by aloominumtoob
(Post 10380072)
Alo,
The facebook seats are ex-R.A.F. Hastings or Beverly seats. alt |
Originally Posted by Max Tow
(Post 10380734)
Possibly the reported joining might be a red herring, i.e. these might be two individual pilot seats which have been modified, otherwise why contour both?
Sticking solely to the photos, which can't lie, if they are actually single seats (whether asymmetric or not), then that would put the Heron and Dove/Devon back in the frame, so they could still be passenger seats (which would also explain the fittings for both seat-back and plug-in trays). |
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