Originally Posted by LGS6753
(Post 10989522)
Britannia certainly did that (A UK outbound, B return) but I'm not sure when that started.
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Originally Posted by bean
(Post 10989926)
Actually, Dan-Air call were not so simple
Positioning flights usedcthe number 99 followed by the last two letters of the aircraft reg. Eg 99victorgolf. The only other use of alpha numerics was an experiment in 1982, all letters of the alphabet were used except A and D. 1st letter was B then a 4 denoting a 1-11 or a 6 denoting a 748. So 24 letters used. Eg DA001 B6BB, DA024 B6BZ. DA025 C6BB, DA048 C6CZ. These were the only examples of alpha numerics used by Dan |
Originally Posted by ExSp33db1rd
(Post 10988209)
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An earlier post queried the call sign Clipper One, or Two. and a response was that Clipper Two was the Round the World service Westwards from USA. Not sure if all airlines followed the protocol, i.e. was it an ICAO thing ? but I recall flight numbers followed the principle " Evens go East " e.g. BA 510 went to New York and BA 509 came back. |
Originally Posted by ex82watcher
(Post 11027274)
My memory dims,but wasn't Speedbird 1 (or as they would say "Speedbird concorde 1") the EGLL to KJFK service ?
BA (as distinct from BOAC) has never adopted the east/west-odd/even rule. |
Originally Posted by ex82watcher
(Post 11027269)
Sorry,a bit late,but it's the first time I've looked at this thread.There was a trial of alpha-numerics in the very late 80s,or early 90s.I didn't arrive at LATCC until 1988,and I can remember an occasion when on the Pole Hill sector,I had a Dan Air,and a Midland on the frequency at the same time,both of which had the same Alpha-numeric suffix to their call sign,and all three of us were becoming confused at times.They were something like BD498AB,and DA498AB.Thankfully the trial didn't last long !
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Originally Posted by bean
(Post 11027739)
The first trial of alpha numerics was done in conjunction with Dan-Air in 1982. I can, if necessary, explain how the system worked
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Dan Air used alphanumeric callsigns for their LBA-based Link City flights. The evening flight to Glasgow was DA B6ER and the return was DA B6ES. I don't remember if alphanumerics were also used on the Channel Islands flights.
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Originally Posted by DaveReidUK
(Post 11027365)
Yes.
BA (as distinct from BOAC) has never adopted the east/west-odd/even rule. |
Originally Posted by Skipness One Foxtrot
(Post 11028173)
Didn't this change when the flight numbers went over to the new BA logic in about 1978, round about when the "BeaLine" callsign was dropped. For many years, only Lufthansa and Canada 3000 operated on the North Atlantic with even numbers west and odd numbers East. So "evens go East" was almost completely flipped by the late 80s early 90s.
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Oh you're right I forgot about Swissair and forgot I ever knew about Alitalia, which I would have done given hours listening to Scottish high level and Shanwick.
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Another couple of callsign questions. Maof Airlines (Israel) operated flights to the UK 1981-1984. I don't recall them using "Maof" as a callsign, believe it was "Mike Golf", with MG being their 2 -letter designator for ATC purposes, OJ being used for ticketing etc.
Same question about Altair (the Italian one), operating Italy-UK early - mid 80's with Caravelles. Don't think they used "Altair", possibly "Sierra Mike" which was their 2 letter designator. Grateful as always for any confirmation (or otherwise). |
Another one for anyone whose memory is better than mine. Executive Express, based Luton, operating Cessna Titans 1977- 1983 (ish) also Cessna 421s and a Beech 200. Pretty sure they flew under flight numbers rather than registrations, anyone recall their callsign?
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Actually, Dan-Air call were not so simple
Positioning flights usedcthe number 99 followed by the last two letters of the aircraft reg. Eg 99victorgolf. The only other use of alpha numerics was an experiment in 1982, all letters of the alphabet were used except A and D. 1st letter was B then a 4 denoting a 1-11 or a 6 denoting a 748. So 24 letters used. Eg DA001 B6BB, DA024 B6BZ. DA025 C6BB, DA048 C6CZ. These were the only examples of alpha numerics used by Dan Actually, maintenance flight numbers used 89, not 99. |
Originally Posted by cj241101
(Post 11101235)
Another couple of callsign questions.
Same question about Altair (the Italian one), operating Italy-UK early - mid 80's with Caravelles. Don't think they used "Altair", possibly "Sierra Mike" which was their 2 letter designator. Grateful as always for any confirmation (or otherwise). As Societa Aerea Mediterranea (SAM) (MQ) I seem to recall SAM's flight numbers were always SM, maybe MQ came later? |
Originally Posted by brakedwell
(Post 11026638)
International Air Services (Cargo) used "Foxtrot Foxtrot" for both the Britannias and the DC8's.
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Pelican Air Transport aka Pelican Cargo callsign was DP and "Pelican" Pelican callsign had been used unofficially by Air France for their cargo operation but had never been registered by them!
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Originally Posted by dc9-32
(Post 11134315)
Actually, maintenance flight numbers used 89, not 99. Another memory to add to the mix - training flights seemed to always use the callsign DAN51T. |
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