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ricardian 12th Oct 2016 03:16

An article about a potential Lancaster restoration that may be of some interest

Phoenix1969 12th Oct 2016 08:22


An article about a potential Lancaster restoration that may be of some interest
Wow, all they have to do is replace the turrets with fairings and stick in a few seats and they can make a Lancastrian :D

But seriously - thanks for sharing. Hope they succeed.

Herod 12th Oct 2016 08:24

Thanks for that update, ricardian. I knew about the plans for the Alberta museum, but didn't know they had fallen through. My guess is the aircraft is too far gone to be restorable, but who knows. Add to that "Just Jane", which is in much better nick, and we could have four Lancasters airworthy in a few year's time. Sixteen Merlins in close formation? Heaven.

DaveReidUK 12th Oct 2016 09:14


Originally Posted by Phoenix1969 (Post 9537989)
Wow, all they have to do is replace the turrets with fairings and stick in a few seats and they can make a Lancastrian

Plus cutting an apparently random number of windows, which appeared to vary from airframe to airframe on the Lancastrian.

Phoenix1969 12th Oct 2016 09:29


Plus cutting an apparently random number of windows, which appeared to vary from airframe to airframe on the Lancastrian.
Indeed, and the seat layouts were different from airframe to airframe on the Lancastrian too, as evidenced by some earlier pics on this thread.

AirportsEd 13th Oct 2016 08:32

I know that later BOAC Lancastrians were fitted with more seats that the earliest ones but I guess the variation in seat layouts is also partly due to the fact that BOAC absorbed some of the BSAA machines which more than likely had a different cabin fit…?
Ed

DaveReidUK 13th Oct 2016 09:50


Originally Posted by AirportsEd (Post 9539240)
I know that later BOAC Lancastrians were fitted with more seats that the earliest ones but I guess the variation in seat layouts is also partly due to the fact that BOAC absorbed some of the BSAA machines which more than likely had a different cabin fit…?

The early conversions had a single row of 9 sideways-facing seats (see photo in post #31), in fact the first ones only had windows on the starboard side.

Later Lancastrians had 13 forward-facing 2-abreast seats, separated by an aisle (see posts #40 and #61) and obviously had the windows on both sides.

AirportsEd 13th Oct 2016 14:10

Thanks Dave,
I was thinking that perhaps the cabin 'fit' was also different between the two airlines before BSAA was absorbed...but I do not know for sure.
I had wondered if perhaps potential airline customers had a kind of Henry Ford-type choice regarding fixtures and fittings (seat/bed/galley type styles, etc) to begin with and it was only when more airframe conversions were being considered (and the airlines had more experience of what worked in the cabin layout and what didn't) that the changes were introduced. Obviously, the Lancastrian was only ever intended as a stop-gap until the purpose-built airliner types were ready so I wondered if much forward planning had taken place regarding what could be achieved in such a relatively small cabin.
Ed

Umkubas 16th Oct 2016 04:45

Your Dad's BOAC log books
 

Originally Posted by Mike6567 (Post 9536484)
Ed Re "Off The Beam" by Robert Chandler
The book has a few chapters on his time with BSAA and BOAC. Some interesting and amusing anecdotes. He was on the first flight from Heathrow January 1st 1946 in "Star Light" and there are several pages on this.
Not a lot of specific Lancastrian content.
Mike

In a previous post, you displayed a page of your father's BOAC log book. I am very interested in your father's Straticruisers flights and flights between London and Filton. Can I get in contact with you?

Mike6567 16th Oct 2016 18:05

Umkubas
The flight was on a Constellation 049 though he does have quite a few entries for 377.
I have tried to send a PM but it won't let me. Can you send one to me?
Mike

Herod 16th Oct 2016 20:44

I think pm's are blocked until a member has been in a certain time, or has a certain number of posts. It'll be in the rules somewhere.

AirportsEd 19th Oct 2016 13:52

Hello Mike 6567,
Are there any more pictures in your collection that you can share?
Regards,
Ed

Mike6567 19th Oct 2016 19:05

Will have a look but not so many Lancastrian photos left.
Below is interesting as although it was issued as a post card there is a caption below.
http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x...pse85igpno.jpg
"Fruit runs to Paris. Lancaster Freighter about to be loaded with 5 tons of peaches"

rolling20 19th Oct 2016 19:54

Did anyone else titter at this line on the restoration story?....'Lancaster bombers were popular in World War II'.

Wander00 19th Oct 2016 21:05

Not with the Germans I guess......................

AirportsEd 20th Oct 2016 17:26

Excellent photo Mike.
I wonder which airfield it was taken at?
Thanks,
Ed

Octane 20th Oct 2016 20:48

Out of interest does anyone know close the MOTAT Lancaster in NZ is to airworthiness if they were that way inclined?

one11 20th Oct 2016 22:17


Originally Posted by AirportsEd (Post 9547354)
Excellent photo Mike.
I wonder which airfield it was taken at?
Thanks,
Ed

I have a copy of this postcard but without the caption. Text on the back names the site as Paris Le Bourget.

A30yoyo 20th Oct 2016 23:05

The Ju-52 behind, actually an AAC.1 Toucan appears to be Air France's F-BALF which perhaps supports Le Bourget

BSAA1947 21st Oct 2016 07:56

That is indeed a great photo of Star Ward. It didn't look so elegant after they fitted the freight pannier to it!


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