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ZeBedie 27th Oct 2013 09:43

RR Dart?
 
Is there a book available which describes the design and development of the Dart?

DaveReidUK 27th Oct 2013 10:40

There was a potted early history of the Dart in a Flight article from March 1953:

viscount | power plant | operational development | 1953 | 0370 | Flight Archive

and a later (1958) update here:

viscount | dart | date power | 1958 | 0262 | Flight Archive

om15 27th Oct 2013 13:03

Rolls Royce Heritage Trust
 
"The Rolls-Royce Dart - pioneering turboprop" by Roy Heathcote, published by Rolls Royce Heritage Trust in 1992. Historical Series No 18
ISBN 1-872922-03-1.

BR om15

ZeBedie 28th Oct 2013 20:11

Thanks very much both of you.

ZeBedie 2nd Nov 2013 20:12

Just started Roy Heathcote's book and enjoying it very much. I must say, I very much miss the sound of taxiing Darts, though I never really appreciated it back in the day, except perhaps the last time I flew into Jersey, in the early 90's and the place was alive with that sound.

brakedwell 4th Nov 2013 19:57

I can still hear them whistling !


http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c3...yceDarts-1.jpg

LAS1997 5th Nov 2013 14:30

I guess that is a wing of a Vickers Vanguard? Nice photograph.

brakedwell 5th Nov 2013 14:57

Whitworth Gloster Argosy. The Vanguard had RR Tynes.

Georgeablelovehowindia 5th Nov 2013 18:06


Originally Posted by brakedwell (Post 8136550)
Whitworth Gloster Argosy. The Vanguard had RR Tynes.

That's the Armstrong Whitworth (AW660) Argosy surely? And since those R. Da. 10s are putting out considerably more horse power than the R. Da. 7s of my Dart Herald experience, I would venture that they're not whistling in that mode of flight, and forward of the compressors, but BLARING MIND-NUMBINGLY. Unless the sound-proofing on the Argosy flight deck was a whole lot better than in the Herald, which wouldn't be difficult, come to think of it.

Behind the line of the props, it's true that the further you walked down the cabin the more the engine sound moderated to a quite pleasant whine.

Allan Lupton 5th Nov 2013 20:27

Yer that's a whistling wheelbarrow, mate.

Rosevidney1 6th Nov 2013 18:11

Well, it was certainly known to the press as the Whistling Wheelbarrow but in the service the word 'wheelbarrow' was disposed of and 'xxx' a far more popular one used! :eek:

Croqueteer 6th Nov 2013 18:23

:ok:After the nose radome was fitted!

Dora-9 6th Nov 2013 18:27

Both the type and location should be obvious. Happy days!

http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a1...ps4ad3b7ec.jpg

brakedwell 6th Nov 2013 19:14


That's the Armstrong Whitworth (AW660) Argosy surely? And since those R. Da. 10s are putting out considerably more horse power than the R. Da. 7s of my Dart Herald experience, I would venture that they're not whistling in that mode of flight, and forward of the compressors, but BLARING MIND-NUMBINGLY. Unless the sound-proofing on the Argosy flight deck was a whole lot better than in the Herald, which wouldn't be difficult, come to think of it.

If I remember correctly Armstrong Whitworth morphed into Whitworth Gloster in 1961. The Argosy flight deck was noticeably less noisy than the the dart Herald as the engines were farther away and the sound proofing more efficient, but I do remember the distant, but ever present whistling noise.

brakedwell 6th Nov 2013 20:42

The Argosy could carry an even bigger elephant after the Dart 101's were fitted.
Seriously, it was a much better aircraft than many denigrators would like to think, the same could also be said about the Dart Herald.

ZeBedie 7th Nov 2013 15:22

If there was a competition for the most neat and tidy engine installation, maybe the Dart would win? It just looks so good.

chevvron 8th Nov 2013 09:22

The night time BEA Argosy freight flights from Heathrow to Paris occasionally used to achieve 4,000 ft by the south coast.

brakedwell 8th Nov 2013 11:35

We used to fly from Aden to Mombasa and return with a full load of (65) passengers. Five hours plus each way and a lot of high ground along the route.

emeritus 11th Nov 2013 05:07

And I imagine you would be able to hear the Water Meth gurgling down the pipes on T/O!!

:eek::eek:

fergineer 11th Nov 2013 06:28

Set climb power Eng......14500 785 trim trim.....


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