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sharksandwich 14th Apr 2012 05:48

Spitfires found in Burma
 
Twenty new Spitfires, intended for use in Burma but never flown in anger as the Pacific War ended suddenly/technology changed,may have been located:Spitfires buried in Burma during war to be returned to UK - Telegraph and The new Battle of Burma: Find 20 buried Spitfires and make them fly | Mail OnlineI wonder if they will still be airworthy, or too corroded after 70 years to be anything other than museum pieces?And what monetary value will they have?Priceless from one point of view, but must be worth the cost of salvaging them?

Could be the last? 14th Apr 2012 06:50

Spitfires found in Burma
 
Outstanding!

Spitfires buried in Burma during war to be returned to UK - Telegraph

Daysleeper 14th Apr 2012 06:55


a historic deal that will see the fighter jets dug up
Amazing they are the jet version, those are REALLY rare...:suspect:

tilleydog1 14th Apr 2012 06:58

Wonderful piece of journalism there! Fighter Jets!! Japanese occupation two weeks before the bomb was dropped, how do these people get a job?

green granite 14th Apr 2012 07:17

From the comments section, says it all really:

"aircrafts"

"fighter jets"

"Acadamy"

Has this been written by a 14 year old?

johnnypaveway 14th Apr 2012 07:19

Does this mean Battle of Britain Memorial Sqn?....... can we include them in the FE@R stats :}

baffman 14th Apr 2012 07:24

It really is a classic (by the way I like the Telegraph!). How many "confusions" in this single paragraph? -


However, advances in technology and the emergence of more agile jets meant they were never used and in August 1945, officials fearing a Japanese occupation abandoned them on the orders of Lord Louis Mountbatten, the head of South East Asia Command, two weeks before the atom bombs were dropped, ending the conflict.

Tiger_mate 14th Apr 2012 07:28

Iffy journalism aside, aircraft buried in transport crates with protective wrapping is significant and an exciting prospect for the historic aircraft community.

Could be the last? 14th Apr 2012 07:32

Forget about the crap journalism, you can't expect anything else these days, but the fact that a farmer from Lincolnshire has found these ac in Burma is amazing. Yes, he will probably recoup his money and probably more, but would you want them to stay in crates 40ft down in foreign soil??? The cynics should direct their angst towards things like the lottery fund, who would rather dish out the funds to some lame-half-arsed pinko project rather than secure our history, but hey there you go!

I wonder if this find will re-invigorate the search for the Lancasters at Elsham?

Whenurhappy 14th Apr 2012 07:49

I have tried to follow this story and I even checked the date to ensure it wasn't the RAF's birthday. But it makes very little sense. Dates, Marks, locations are all over the place. For example, why were US servicemen involved in their disposal? Why did SACSEA (Mountbatten) order their disposal, fearing that they'd be grabbed by the Japanese, when in mid 1945 the Japs were finished in Burma? MK II Spits? Delivered in Late 1941 - but not touched until 1945?

I hope these inconsistencies are due to poor reporting (qv ad naseum) and the aircraft are found - but it all sounds a bit speculative (BBC claim they could be found; DT that they have) and reminds me for the search 40 years ago for 'crated' Boeing seaplanes from WWI stored in the tunnels of North Head, Auckland.

Pontius Navigator 14th Apr 2012 08:07

What would make sense is a late delivery when they were no longer needed hence they were not uncrated and then dumped as they were surplus to requirements and uneconomic to return to UK or give to one of the liberated countries.

racedo 14th Apr 2012 09:08

Camerloon can now state he has provided RAF with 40 "New" planes

and as

Burma has some oil and as its important to screw China he will do any deal that will see UK influence back in a country that HMG so lovingly looked after as a benevolent part of the Empire all those years ago.:rolleyes:

green granite 14th Apr 2012 09:11

Interestingly the Mail has a slightly different slant on why they were buried:

"But the Mark II Spitfires in the secret haul never saw action. Earl Mountbatten issued an order for them to be hidden in 1945 to prevent foreign forces from getting their hands on them as the British army demobilised. The aircraft, straight from the production line, were buried in crates at a depth of 4ft to 6ft to preserve them."

Hueymeister 14th Apr 2012 09:11

Can I have one please?

Wander00 14th Apr 2012 09:18

That will keep Mark22 off the streets for a bit. Will be great if it come off.

Wander00 14th Apr 2012 09:37

Does this cache mean the unit price will go down?.....thought not..

I'll get my coat

overstress 14th Apr 2012 09:42

A comment by a reader after the article suggests they are Mk XIVs, not MkIIs.

Hope someone with deep pockets can keep them all together.

cyflyer 14th Apr 2012 09:44

Truely fascinating news if true. Good of the PM to get personally involved. Doubt the reports of them being Mk2's being true though. Most probably much later marks. Mk2's were well obsolete by then, and probably not even shipped to Burma in the first place. Our friend Peter will probably confirm this.

Agaricus bisporus 14th Apr 2012 09:48

"Huge Saxon Gold Treasure Hoard "May" be found in Your Garden!"

Quite.

How many dozen hoards of buried unused and crated aircraft have we been told about over the years? And how many have materialised? Who would go to the effort of digging a hole big enough for that in fear of an iminent enemy invasion when a hundred gallons of avgas would have done the same job of disposal for one ten thousandth of the effort?

The Telegraph article is so riddled with nonsense and inconsistencies (even by Journalistic "standards") it is hard to believe there really is a fact amongst them.
Anyway wooden crates will have rotted and collapsed in 70 years crushing the contents flat under umpteen feet of sodden tropical dirt. There aint gonna be much useful left I fear.

It would be lovely if it were true but I'm not holding my breath.

Vizsla 14th Apr 2012 09:49

Caroline Grace will put a stop to it


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