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wub 11th Jan 2012 17:02

In 1966 a hijacked Aerolíneas Argentinas DC-4 landed on Stanley race course in the Falkland Islands.

mustafagander 12th Jan 2012 08:10

I seem to recall that a KAL B707 was forced down in the USSR somewhere and landed, under control, on a frozen lake. The Capt had flown in entirely the wrong direction and the Ruskies got a bit tense and fired off a few rounds to attract his attention. I can't remember what happened to the aircraft but I think all on board got out of it OK.

Groundloop 12th Jan 2012 12:19


Quote:
was there not an upcock with kg/ltrs or lbs a while back in Canada which resulted in a landing on a race-course? Airbus??

That was the Gimli Glider.
Which was a 767.

Capetonian 12th Jan 2012 14:40

There was an incident in about 1985 where a 747, operating KE007, I think it was a NYC-SEL, was shot down by the Russkies over Sakhalin Island. As far as I remember there were no survivors. You might be referring to a different incident.

Evening Star 12th Jan 2012 14:47


Originally Posted by mustafagander (Post 6954732)
I seem to recall that a KAL B707 was forced down in the USSR somewhere and landed, under control, on a frozen lake. The Capt had flown in entirely the wrong direction and the Ruskies got a bit tense and fired off a few rounds to attract his attention. I can't remember what happened to the aircraft but I think all on board got out of it OK.

KAL902 B707 in 1978 (as opposed to KAL007). The two fatalities were due to the missiles fired by the SU-15, with no further fatalities during the subsequent forced landing. Some details here.

Fareastdriver 12th Jan 2012 16:27

IIRC a USAF B36 landed in Wiltshire quite close to Boscombe Down. They had to build a temporary track and cut a hole in the fence so they could tow it on to Boscombe airfield. Apparently when the captain telephoned General Le May to tell him what had happened he was fired on the spot.

wub 12th Jan 2012 18:12

B36 photo

http://forum.keypublishing.com/attac...9&d=1243341612

Fareastdriver 12th Jan 2012 18:41

That's the one. You can see a good old English double decker bus in the background.

DH106 12th Jan 2012 21:25

That's one rugged airframe and gear if it landed short off-field and the gear survived to allow towing back to the field !

seacue 12th Jan 2012 23:57

The Air Florida take-off crash into the Potomac River was 30 years ago Jan 13, 1982. today. Most passengers perished.

14th Street Bridge, the Air Florida Crash, and Subway Disaster

I was in the northern DC suburbs and heard about it on my way to a travel agent to arrange for a Caribbean holiday. There was nasty heavy wet snow.

The Washington Metrorail (underground) had its first fatal accident that same afternoon ... much less severe than the plane crash.

seacue

Fitter2 13th Jan 2012 09:19

Not an airliner, but I know a pilot who did an off airfield landing in an F-104, and after having the airplane fixed flew it back to base.

Chapter and verse available.

pulse1 13th Jan 2012 09:32

I thought that the B36 ended up on or very close to Old Sarum. I think that the roadway you can see in the photograph is the perimeter track of Old Sarum.

caiman27 13th Jan 2012 10:37

TAM Fokker 100 with 29 on board. Ran out of fuel and made an emergency landing in a field 30 Aug 2002. Killed a cow.

Fareastdriver 13th Jan 2012 14:25


I think that the roadway you can see in the photograph is the perimeter track of Old Sarum.
I have seen other pictures of the incident and that is definately a public road. A clue are the ploughing furrows visible under the snow behind the port wing. There would be a bit of a problem doing a 2.75 mile tow from Old Sarum to Boscombe. There were only a handful of runways that could take a B36 so your average road, then, would have collapsed under the strain; even if it was wide enough.

jabird 14th Jan 2012 13:08

Thanks everyone for a fascinating set of replies.

Brian Abraham - you answered my query straight away, namely that it is possible to land a reasonably sized aircraft away from an airport, and for the aircraft to remain in use.

Agaricus bisporus 14th Jan 2012 19:57

Jabird, with respect, no one has "answered" anything at all.

Of course there are cases where a jet transport aircraft has landed off airport and most/all have survived, and equally there are cases where aircraft have landed on an airport and all have perished.

This proves nothing whatsoever except for the utterly predictable presence of a bell-curve representing on to off airfield accients on one axis, and survivable rates on the other.

As ever, all variations of each argument are all provable here by the "spot-focused" observer, and no general answer is discernable to the open minded asessor.

As ever in this age of bizarrely distorted rationale one needs to apply a sense of proportion before answering this very simple question.

If you do so then a very simple answer becomes apparent. There have been several, some more successful than others, in some no one has died and in other everyone has. Why is this a surprise, and what does it "prove".

Bugger all, actually.

Next....

jabird 14th Jan 2012 22:00

Ab,

I'm not exactly sure what your point is? That accidents have different causes, effects, locations, outcomes? I think we all know that that.

I asked a specific question about a specific scenario, and I got an answer.

I appreciate the responses given by the posters to this forum who have taken the time to answer my question. What is wrong with that?

IslandPilot 15th Jan 2012 22:27

A sizable Russian airliner, not sure of the type but possibly IL62 or TU154, was landed on a grass field on a final delivery flight to a museum. Video exists, the dust storm created by the reverse thrust is spectacular!

DH106 16th Jan 2012 05:39

Yes indeed, it was an East German IL62


Fly380 16th Jan 2012 09:03

How about this BUA 1-11 in Milan. I believe it was repaired and flew again.
BUA 1-11 - 17 Milan Crash JJ
See photo 7 on link. Aircraft was flying again in 1970.


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