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dss3000 17th Oct 2011 22:42

707
 
Try Calling Pratt and Whitney they operate a 720 in Toronto as an engine test bed. If it works out you can send me a commission, lol


Good luck and let us know how you make out.

737bomar 17th Oct 2011 22:42

The Faa has one in ABQ Check in SAT every time I'm there I see one across the field
also Boeing 707 for sale by Alnafay Corp from 1968

By the way if you pick one of my choices, I'd love to ride along Really no mater where you find one I'd love to ride along....

Fris B. Fairing 18th Oct 2011 00:34

Omega Air would be a good bet. They are currently preparing the 3 ex-RAAF 707-338C tankers for a ferry from Australia to the US.

skytrain10 18th Oct 2011 07:36

Incidentally, the one that was offered by Humes McCoy is N88ZL. I see there are a couple of other companies offering it as well!

Certainly from my own experience TV companies would expect to pay serious money for the use of aircraft, particularly if its in a flying sequence. However I cannot see them paying to have one flown in from overseas. The other issue of course with the surviving 707's is that many no longer have passenger windows! The Saha 707's are without doubt the most "original" but Iran is a long way and Saha are not permitted to land in the US, even if the distance issue were overcome.

Al E. Vator 19th Oct 2011 03:58

I watched the first episode where at V1 the 2 pilots stopped everything, looked admiringly at each other and smiled. Yech!!

Still, I'm impressed they aren't using piston prop-liner engine noises when showing the 707!

Sir George Cayley 19th Oct 2011 20:26

Why didn't anyone say it was the Muppet Show?

SGC

WHBM 22nd Oct 2011 07:41


Originally Posted by stepwilk (Post 6756229)
The U.S.NBC TV show "Pan Am" called and asked if I could help them find a flying 707 for use in the U. S. to pretend to be flying into Port au Prince. They'll find an airport somewhere in the U. S. that can stand in for Haiti, but they need the airplane at FRG, on Long Island, by the end of next week. (That's how television works...)

Maybe it's about time that television grew up then, and discovered proper planning and organisation, just like any other industry (and PARTICULARLY aviation) would do for any activity.


No, John Travolta's airplane won't work, they've already looked into that; it's too highly modified to be a stand-in for a 1960s airliner.
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This makes me think that they are looking for interior shots of the cabin as much as externals - JT's 707 is as much pure 1960s externally as anything you will find, and even us lot would accept it, or maybe they said they were going to repaint one side in Pan Am colours and JT wouldn't do it (neither would I if fortunate enough to own one :) ), or his contractural arrangement with Qantas for the livery precludes it.

Art Smass 22nd Oct 2011 08:44

I have read on another forum that Omega Air test flew all 3 ex RAAF 707 tankers at RAAF Richmond today - with departures to the US due tomorrow (2 aircraft) and Monday (the 3rd frame)

stepwilk 22nd Oct 2011 13:00


Maybe it's about time that television grew up then, and discovered proper planning and organisation, just like any other industry (and PARTICULARLY aviation) would do for any activity.
Maybe it's about time you got a job in television and fixed it all up. Meanwhile, they seem to be doing okay without you.

I suspect the problem with the Travolta airplane has more to do with the cockpit than the cabin.

A30yoyo 22nd Oct 2011 13:18

Maybe Travolta insisted on being Captain :)

stepwilk 22nd Oct 2011 13:32

Funny thing is, as I've learned during this 707 chase, Travolta is only rated as a 707 F/O. He cannot fly without a type-rated and current 707 captain in the cockpit. I don't know whether that means he doesn't have a type rating, or an ATP, or what. I'm sure the professionals reading this can quickly figure out what it means, but he sort of exaggerates his capabilities in the various wristwatch ads he does, it seems...

skwinty 22nd Oct 2011 14:04

He who pays the piper calls the tune.:ok:

SpringHeeledJack 23rd Oct 2011 09:23

Having had the odd bit of experience with the film industry, it is true that many situations happen in real time, director decides a different angle is needed, or the envisaged shot doesn't work and so on. However, if it involves background artists, cars, trucks, motorbikes, or even buildings it is doable (most times), but in this case for the producers to either not have pre-planned said B707 into their shooting schedule way ahead of time or realise that said aircraft type is as rare as a hen's tooth these days, or for that matter last 20 years is plane :hmm: and simple bad business planning, especially considering the costs involved in film/TV production.

Realistic options ? 1) CGI mixed with museum steeds 2) Omega Air 3) USAF KC-135 4) N88ZL if not sold and with up to date airworthiness.



SHJ

MikeNYC 23rd Oct 2011 13:47

Word has it that Travolta's 707 is coming into FRG today in Pan-Am colors...so perhaps that worked out after all?

SpringHeeledJack 23rd Oct 2011 15:15

That will look good, I wonder if it will be staying in those evocative colours for very long after the filming ?



SHJ

A30yoyo 23rd Oct 2011 17:26

Since Pan Am had 720Bs it shouldn't look too 'wrong' as it's a short-body 707-138B

stepwilk 23rd Oct 2011 21:41

Travolta's 707 won't be arriving at FRG this afternoon. Mechanical issues. I don't know what they are, but that's what NBC's rep has told me. The producers might begin wishing they'd thought more than 20 minutes in advance when they learn what "mechanical issues" can involve on a 50-year-old airplane.

aviate1138 24th Oct 2011 07:11

Stepwilk said...
"Travolta is only rated as a 707 F/O. He cannot fly without a type-rated and current 707 captain in the cockpit."

Funny that, as he came all the way from the planet Theta presumably by something a little faster than a 707. :rolleyes:

PS Thanks for your editorship of Flying and Car and Driver, Stepwilk.

sled dog 24th Oct 2011 10:31

S G C , where do you get the idea that NATO has a 707 in Luxembourg ? All nato awacs are based at Geilenkirchen in Germany, albeit with LX-... reg nbrs as well as serial nbrs . They occasionally do continuation training at Findel , but not based there.

pax britanica 24th Oct 2011 10:44

Hi
Is the show going to appear in UK anytime soon?

Also there seem to be more DC8s around why not use one of them. PanAm had both 707s and DC8s in 60s and early 70s and they look pretty much alike for the punters who will watch the trolley dolls more closely than the aircraft
PB


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