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Self loading bear 7th Feb 2021 07:34


Originally Posted by ea200 (Post 10985191)
As soon as I saw your latest I thought I'd seen it somewhere. Pretty sure it's Page, AZ.

Indeed Page Arizona.
Take it away EA200, you have control.

ea200 7th Feb 2021 10:50

Thanks Bear. Spent a bit of time around there. Great scenery.

How about this one?


https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....dcea19ab88.jpg

teusje 7th Feb 2021 18:08

Complete stab in de the dark really, but the first place I thought was, was Split.

mustbeaboeing 7th Feb 2021 22:49

Dubrovnik Cilipi LDDU. DBV
Open House if correct

Max Tow 8th Feb 2021 05:49

My mountain experience is limited to INN & CMF, but the latter does have a distinctive control tower which stays white even after the winter snows, so perhaps Chambery if there's a lake at the end?

chevvron 8th Feb 2021 08:28

Berne/Belp?

ea200 8th Feb 2021 14:43

Some good guesses there but Max Tow has it with Chambery. I was surprised we haven't had it before but it doesn't appear on the list. There is indeed a lake at the far end. The instrument approach is over the lake. Pretty quiet in summer but very busy in the ski season.

Max has control.

Flap40 8th Feb 2021 15:58

We have had it before. I posted it about 5 years ago.

Max Tow 8th Feb 2021 20:54

Try this - an historic airfield. The aircraft type is a good start
https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....beafb9328.jpeg
https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....4f3450314.jpeg
https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....358a772c3.jpeg
...

chevvron 9th Feb 2021 06:52

Efrica????

Max Tow 9th Feb 2021 07:19

I'd suggest that the scenery is far too lush for those bullet holes to have been inflicted in the back and forth of the N.Africa campaign.....

Asturias56 9th Feb 2021 08:29

Is that a CAC Boomerang?

Max Tow 9th Feb 2021 08:37

No, afraid not. Another photo might help as the day is drawing on in Oz

https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....febd1d12e.jpeg

OUAQUKGF Ops 9th Feb 2021 10:14

Burma Campaign ?

sycamore 9th Feb 2021 10:36

Malaysia...?

Max Tow 9th Feb 2021 10:49

Yes, one of the above is correct.. The aircraft type will lead you there. If not, here's a bit of the runway which found a new home and the countryside a few miles North - you'll not get the aerial of the runway just yet.
Bed time in Oz now so answer on my desk by the morning please!

https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....a6a6af1cf.jpeg
https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....170f4aabc.jpeg
https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....4d8939d43.jpeg

sycamore 9th Feb 2021 13:21

Curtiss P-75 Mohawk,possibly 5 or 155 Sdn....?

BSD 9th Feb 2021 13:45

East Malaysia perhaps?


Shackman 9th Feb 2021 16:45

Well, Changi had a PSP runway post Japanese occupation, which was still a taxiway until the development of the airport when the PSP was removed, and Kallang was the only airfield still operating till the surrender (and also had PSP). Go north from both and you get the causeway/Jahore River and various islands (and at the time Singapore was part of Malaya).
So - Kallang!.

Asturias56 9th Feb 2021 17:26

Doubt that's Singapore - no shopping centres in sight and that river bends and twists in a most un-Singaporean, indisciplined manner

Max Tow 9th Feb 2021 18:13

Morning all!
No, not Kallang or East Malaysia, but I can see why you say that recalling approaches to Changi from the north over similar looking coastal Malaysia & the waterway of the Johor Strait.
Sycamore - very good, in fact, excellent, but I have a slight issue with "P-75". Other than that, you're still well on the road to a successful I/D.
A couple more clues to lead you in and I'll check in again later on after brekkie cuppa & school run.

https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....7e2c44708.jpeg
https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....d9a3c1ed2.jpeg

sycamore 9th Feb 2021 22:22

ok, Curtiss model-75 Hawk,aka P-36,aka Mohawk1V...
Maybe Cox`sBazar,or Chittagong.....

Max Tow 9th Feb 2021 23:25

Sycamore: That's the one...a rare bird in RAF service. Getting warm on the airfield location - you may have missed clues in my previous post.

India Four Two 10th Feb 2021 01:31


you may have missed clues in my previous post.
Burma Campaign? Imphal?


https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....037833a16f.png



Max Tow 10th Feb 2021 01:45

I42 - Definitely warming up, but not Imphal. And for our Canadian friends, that is a maple leaf in the earlier photo.
The "American-Indian named aircraft" connection is about to be renewed with a different tribe and this airfield may once again be involved in an altercation.
Also, there's a nearby wonder of wartime engineering that is perhaps a bit too subtly hidden in my prose. Still, we'll truck on....

https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....5a3c42cc0.jpeg
https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....c64c79d59.jpeg

India Four Two 10th Feb 2021 09:02


Also, there's a nearby wonder of wartime engineering that is perhaps a bit too subtly hidden in my prose. Still, we'll truck on....
Burma Road?

Max Tow 10th Feb 2021 09:21

Getting there! To split hairs, the Burma Road was just pre WW2 and the original supply route from Burma to China, before the Japanese overran the Burmese ports. It connects to this wartime construction, which lies 50km from our airfield.

https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....0a7940207.jpeg

sycamore 10th Feb 2021 10:23

5 Sdn operated from DINJAN....

Max Tow 10th Feb 2021 10:32

Tik Hai Sycamore & well done, especially as I didn't have to resort to an aerial photo (there is a contemporary one on Goggle).

Dinjan in Assam it is, the home of Nbr. 5 squadron RAF for a few months in 1942 before the USAAF moved in during the" over the Hump" airlift to China, for which the base is far more famous (but that would have been too easy!)

The pilot in the first aircraft photo is Flt Lt. Keith MacEwan, surveying damage after the Mohawk's first enemy encounter, a "Dave" floatplane in July 42.

The maple leaf cowling belonged to Canadian Flt Sgt. Rod Lawrence, who was later credited with a "Lily" bomber kill, albeit in Oct 42, shortly after the squadron moved south from Dinjan to Agartala. Brave men, all.

Plenty of books about the Hump airlift, but may I commend to any who are interested in this lesser known aircraft (well, to me, anyway!) the excellent "P36 Hawk Aces of World War 2" which includes the above and many other tales.

The waterway may look like the sea but is of course the mighty Brahmaputra.

Other clues explained, with apologies if they didn't help:

The "still well on the road" and "still we'll truck on" - I hoped might help identify the photo of the amazing Stilwell Road (as it's now known, formerly the Ledo Rd) built during the conflict to carry supplies over the mountains to China following the loss of Burma and which starts its 1000km journey nearby.

My "cuppa" mention was intended to suggest tea and, thereby, Assam, specifically the Dinjan Tea Estate where the airfield was built. It's a truly beautiful part of the world, with the river, mountains on both shores and the Kaziranga Wildlife Reserve (refuge of the one horned rhino).

The American pair with the cub is a bit of a mystery. It was definitely taken at Dinjan so I thought it might allude to the flights conducted by the Flying Tigers, however probably not as it does look more like a leopard.

The "American Indian tribe" reference was to connect Mohawks to the impending reactivation of the air base with a detachment of new IAF Chinook helicopters, to provide heavy lift capability during the current India/China eastern Himalaya border tensions.

Finally, the initial rather blurred colour photo of the derelict airfield building was included just so that I could share the accompanying trip report from the unfortunate Sgt. Bikash, repeated below. Hopefully the place has been refurbished before the IAF helo crews move in......



https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....01b8fab0a.jpeg

sycamore 10th Feb 2021 18:12

Terima kasei,la,Max, but it will be Open House....

I sympathise with Sgt Bikash and his cobras, when having a shower in Borneo with Ghurkhas ,the call went out "Cobra,Cobra,Sahib,Big cobra....!! Well,soaped -up,wearing flip-flops,grabbed my towel,this is no time or place for flute playing,ran out and tripped into a monsoon drain....another place cobras hide...! My orderly,a Gurkha lad of about 16,picked me up over his shoulder,and ran me to the medics,as I had a bleeding foot...That got sorted by the Doc,who gave me a sarong to wear as the towel had `disappeared`...The story had of course been the rounds amongst the troops that `Punka-wallah Sahib`had been attacked by a monster cobra,but had bravely `retreated` and had been injured,,the cobra had also retreated having seen P-W Sahibs bottom.....
For the next few days ,every Ghurkha I met gave me the biggest smile and smartest salute,and `how is your foot Sahib`...? I think I may have given my orderly a bottle of rum as thanks( via his QGO...)

Max Tow 10th Feb 2021 21:58

Thanks Sycamore - a fine tale for the grandkids!
OH declared.

India Four Two 10th Feb 2021 23:23

Nice challenge Max Tow.

Although I'm quite familiar with history of the Burma Campaign - I've read a lot and my dad was at Imphal - it was only during my searches for this aerodrome that I realized that the Burma Road essentially heads east and not northeast as I had assumed.

Max Tow 11th Feb 2021 00:16

I42 - thanks. Yes, it's always interesting to follow the side stories in these searches, and easy with the internet. I hadn't realised that of the 10k or so Americans involved in the building of the Stilwell/Ledo Road, 60% were African-Americans. Also that Churchill regarded it as a waste of effort, which seems to be at least partially true as the vast majority of cargo went by air before the Burma ports were retaken. Understand that there are moves afoot to restore the road but I guess events in Burma may delay that idea.

Asturias56 11th Feb 2021 07:35

https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....4d81367408.jpg
Here's one I'd never heard of ..................... or rather I never realised there'd been an aerodrome there

OUAQUKGF Ops 11th Feb 2021 17:11

Joyce Green, Kent ?

(A little later) Well I thought it was a Vimy but it's a Handley Page O/400 so I'll have a guess at Cricklewood Aerodrome ?

Asturias56 12th Feb 2021 07:57

No but we are in the UK - its a well known (but rather surprising) location

https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....0c3c206a85.jpg

chevvron 12th Feb 2021 08:07

Hawkinge maybe?

OUAQUKGF Ops 12th Feb 2021 10:06

Yapton (Ford Junction) Aerodrome with HP manufacturing facility. Later Ford Airfield Sussex ?

nvubu 12th Feb 2021 17:12

Stonehenge ?

Max Tow 13th Feb 2021 06:56

[QUOTE=Asturias56: No but we are in the UK - its a well known (but rather surprising) location


Is it now a sports venue?


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