G'day Graeme,

I-spy lamblin radiators!!

Farman F-120 ??

Is it German?

Sorry Karlark, it is as Trevor says, the Farman F.120 bomber. David posted the Farman F.120 Jabiru early last year which is quite a different aircraft. I forgot that Trevor solved that one and he has a good memory. :) Plus I think he has a secret list of Lamblin Radiator equipped aircraft!

Your control Trevor.

Farman F-120 - Bombardier lger - Un sicle d'aviation franaise

http://img208.imageshack.us/img208/8053/img136t.jpg

Not the Challenge
 

Ken.
Hi Ken. Thought I'd answer that here. From an annual magazine called AeroCrafter. I bought a few of them in the 90's, don't know if they're still around. Largely American content, but what interested me most was the projects or "In Development" section. I've always wanted to use them here but could never find them on the net. I guess the World moved on and they were forgotten? If you're interested I can e-mail some to you or post them here for others to try?...during quiet periods?

eg....

http://img269.imageshack.us/img269/6710/img137vh.jpg

Thanks Noyade regarding the F.120 information. :)

I somehow wanted to believe it was related to a DFW Floh or a Linke-Hoffman R1 type of aircraft.

Thanks Graeme,

I haven't got a list, but the radiator makes a one word search much easier on Fright global archive (about the only one worth using with its lousy search engine!!) :)

Sorry mate, this one's not WWII

http://i1138.photobucket.com/albums/.../TC-wtf164.jpg

Good morning Trevor.

I'm going for an Autogyro GMBH Calidus? Could be a quiet weekend on PPRuNe mate?

IF correct, make it open house. I'll pop back later and re-assess the situation. :)

Are you working today? God I hope not - between that dog and work do you get any leisure time?

Evening Graeme,

That's good enough for me mate, it's the Auto-Gyro GmBh Calidus 09 :D

http://i1138.photobucket.com/albums/...e/Ruby2A-1.jpg

Noyade has declared Open House

Edit: Morning Ken :) Weather OK here at the moment, so I may be in the garden!!

Evening Graeme, morning Trevor....I'm around off and on today....planned work in the garden cancelled due to weather!

Graeme, thanks for the info on AeroCrafter and your kind offer to forward on....certainly a new one on me. I'll see if I can find out someothing more about them through my brother in the US.

As its OH:

http://i551.photobucket.com/albums/i...r/9b702ec8.jpg

That dog looks mean mate. :) Cujo?
I'm in the bedroom with the T-Hub watching telly.
Slow typing. Observer's close by....
Centre Est-Jodel DR.1050 Ambassadeur?

(Edit - Kicked No. 3 son off MY computer. Given up on watching telly.)

Kind of figured you would go that route:). Not a CEA/Jodel but follow that line of thought!

I was thinking the dog looked kind of cute!

That's how they get close...then tear your throat apart. Don't you watch the horror movies mate? :)

Sooo...French?

I'm just a softy really! And the throat is still intact...mind you I have one less arm than most people:).
Only joking...

Wrong line of thought mate:) But there is a Jodel connection.

I have a lot of wrong thoughts. European? Can I ask how old this is? Put the '61 back on the shelf and reach for.........?

Not European....I am pretty sure its not in any Observers book...late 60's kitplane. Based on.....

Many built mate? Popular? Or a one-off obscurity found only deep in the bowels of a place like...Aerofiles?

That's what she thinks (or do I mean knows)!! Not at all like Cujo Graeme, you watch too many horror movies mate; thanks for the PM :ok:

Sun is out here and the wind is blowing hard, hence lots of connection drop-outs, but it's drying the grass, so I may dissapear to give the lawn its last cut of the year :hmm: !

Edit: looking at the clues, is it a Falconar F11A

Trevor.

Suspect you're an engineer?

Bought this today at an antique shop for $8. Fascinating! I now know the dimensions of the hole to dig to trap a tank! :ok:

http://img207.imageshack.us/img207/6017/img138s.jpg

Quite a few around, and it is in Aerofiles, but no piccie. I don't think they are still available but I have seen reference to people still building them within the last few years.

Moved edit to keep it in correct time,

Looking at the clues, is it a Falconar F11A ??

Edit: Just seen weather forecast and off to do grass now, so Open House please if correct!

Hmmm...odd? Looking now...

Looking suspended.....

That'll do...I have it as the Falconar F11 (without the A), which was based on the Jodel D11 (that was the connection Graeme). So well done Trevor:ok:

http://i551.photobucket.com/albums/i...r/9fba100f.jpg

SincoTC has declared Open House

That guy is good. Solves challenges in between the gardening chores.

Okay Ken...another kitplane.....:)

http://img225.imageshack.us/img225/8132/img111n.jpg

Not an inspiring silhouette and I had to draw the muffler/exhaust on as it was missing from the 3-view, so I'll toss a pic in as well mate...after all, it's the weekend. :)

http://img820.imageshack.us/img820/3214/img139f.jpg

Mmm, thought it looked familair - until I saw the picture!

An Amercian design.....1960's?

American.
Mid-nineties.

The company concerned is in the "B"' section but this model isn't even mentioned. Needless to say, no photo.

But it is illustrated on the net.

Sunday is 20 minutes away. I'll let you do your gardens and check things in the morning. Of course, find it, and you know the drill. :ok:

Well that had me scouring around for a while. Having got nowhere I decided to take a look in an old Brassey's guide I have - and I found reference to the aircraft below. Surely it has to be?

http://i551.photobucket.com/albums/i...r/8c815ca2.jpg

But, it is in Aerofiles...the Brutsche Freedom 180 from 1995.

There are earlier models, going back to the 80's, but they all bear the Freedom name.

Trevor....if you've done your lawn (must have a big garden if you haven't), what do you reckon?

Rain stopped play mate, but got the grass cut OK plus some other work :),

Just been looking at Graeme's challenge. I was going to say it's the Brutsche Freedom 28 (also shown as the 28/40), it is earlier and not mentioned in Aerofiles, which shows the Freedom 180 to be a four-seater, Graeme's looks like a single (as does your photo)!

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Hi Trevor...nice to see our rain has spread! It's finally stopped here.

Well the Freedom 180 is described as a 4 seater but the picture certainly looks very much like Graemes?

Found a photo of the Freedom 28 and it appears not to have the visible engine exhaust, and more importantly was around and flying in 1986 when it one a prize at Oshkosh! Graeme had said it was from the mid 90's.

My current thoughts are that the Freedom 28 was the earlier one at Oshkosh in '86 and that a version called the Freedom 40 appeared in the nineties! Your photo looks like a single and I suspect it's a 40 and wrongly labelled. :confused::)

The photo of a 28/40 in my first link above, does show the exhaust, so maybe that's not a 28 either, and the forty was another model :confused:

Edit: It seems the designer Neal Brutsche died in 2003 and on a homebuilt forum someone was replying to his brothers announcement and obit said he was looking for plans eight years earlier for the Freedom 40

From what I can see there is a Freedom 28, a 40, a 180 and a 180STOL. There is also something called a Sport Utility. But not too many pictures!

The 28 is too early...can't find a year for the 40....the 180 is the right vintage...

Think we had better wait for Graeme:)

Edit, you realise we could get a few of these courtesy of Graeme's AeroCrafters magazine!

Sorry Ken, very windy here now, the line dropped out and wouldn't re-connect :ugh:

My money's on the Freedom 40, but like you say, I can't find a year and Fright Archive shows nothing at all for Brutsche! Aviastar lists the models but again not the years!!

So long as Graeme sticks to subjects that are on the Web, like this one appears to be (although not a cut and dried conclusion) I'm easy with that thought :E :uhoh:

Several mentions of AeroCrafter in queries about Freedom 28 and 40, but all lead to dead ends :\

I've got to pop out now and then get a meal ready and I expect you're the same, not many others about so content to await Graeme's call :ok:

Good evening - just having a look.

I do not think so.

As far as I am concerned, Ken has it and should post another challenge.

However, if you all think not, then you can wait.

Good night.

I am probably biased, but one thing I think we are all agreed on is that it is the Brutsche Freedom, but some doubt on the model number. Personally I believe Graeme would have accepted the Freedom, BUT, his comment that it is not mentioned in Aerofiles does nag at me. Trevor, LM says go...if you agree then I'll put up the next one.

Evening Ken,

Sorry for the delay in responding to your last post, but I only I just got back home!

I think that there's quite a bit of confusion surrounding the various model numbers and photos, however, like you say, Graeme said it wasn't on Aerofiles (which the 180 is), maybe (for the sake of Mel's list) he will have a definitive answer, but I agree that he would probably have been happy to accept just Brausche Freedom as a valid answer, so please go ahead and post another challenge!

I'm going to be in the kitchen for a while, but will try and have a crack at it (without burning the house down I hope) :eek:

Go for it Ken :ok: