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vonbag 19th May 2009 18:19

Thank you to Richard and Greetings to Carson1934 (we reside relatively very close).

Speaking of "flying boats" this is my first challenge on this wonderful thread:


http://members.ziggo.nl/bagaglia/Mys...ying_boat_.jpg

Not really a proper silhouette (full black against white), my apologies in advance for that. That is almost all I have here of this aircraft.

Good luck!

carson1934 20th May 2009 07:48

This looks like the Besson MB-411 "Petrel" of 1935 a small aircraft aboard french giant submarine "Surcouf" (this name brings back to me memories of University time in Grenoble!)
carson1934

vonbag 20th May 2009 08:52

Bravo, Carson1934! :D

http://www.samoloty.ow.pl/fot/fot018.jpg

The Marcel Besson MB-411 derived from the MB-410 ordered on 24 August
1932 and destroyed in 1933 whilst undergoing official acceptance trials.
A second prototype was ordered, but, due to the disbandment of the Marcel
Besson company, this reconnaissance aircraft was built by ANF-Les Mureaux
and designated MB-411.
It was, indeed, specifically designed for housing in a cylindrical hangar in
the back of Surcouf 's -- submersible gunship -- conning tower.

http://www.combatreform2.com/surcoufpainting.jpg

The aircraft could be disassembled rapidly for stowage and re-assembled
within 4 minutes of removal from its hangar. It could be lowered to the
water and retrieved by means of a crane.

http://www.combatreform2.com/surcouf...iercruiser.jpg

The MB-411 No 1 was originally a single seater and underwent official
acceptance trials in August 1935; then was delivered to the Surcouf for
proving trials.
Several modifications were demanded, including conversion to two
seats configuration; so the aircraft was returned to ANF -L.M. early in 1936.
At the end of May 1936 it was returned to the Surcouf and in June a second
MB-411 was ordered...

(synoptically from "Air Progress", August 1967, page 812, under "Facts By Request" -- many thanks again to Bill B. , who provided me with this material).

Carson1934 - You have control. (i.e.: your turn)

carson1934 20th May 2009 11:43

http://i636.photobucket.com/albums/u...34/imageXX.gif

Thanks Vonbag for the very interesting pics.
I still have incredible difficulties in uploading images to this fine forum although I follow through whole procedure.
If you can see this image this is my challenge...
carson1934
P.S. it is jap all right....:ugh::ugh::ugh:

carson1934 20th May 2009 11:56

https://www.pprune.org/[IMG]http://i...34/imageXX.gif[/IMG]
I'm trying just one more time as I donět want to use more forum space than necessary
carson1934

I can't see the image but probably you do Vonbag...I keep my fingers crossed
carson1934

vonbag 20th May 2009 14:50

Carson1934 - I can see perfectly your first image in your post #1969.
The one in your post #1970 does not show.
I advise you this:
1. go back to your post #1969, 2. click on the button EDIT on the lower right and 3. COPY/Copia (= select the entire string by passing over it with the mouse cursor whilst keeping the left mouse button pushed down, then right click on it and then select COPY/Copia on the scroll window that will appear) the HTML string that allowed you to successfully post the first image. 4. then just hit the back button (Indietro), so your message will remain un-modified.
5. open your e-mail program, 6. open a new e-mail, 7. right click again on the empty text space and 8. select PASTE (Incolla).
Then, as the final step, order SAVE (Salva) for future use; eventually, you can give that e-mail -- that will never be sent but will remain in your archive -- an appropriate title, so you can easily find it back anytime you want.

In the future you will not have to type anymore the perfect string, because you will just keep copying it from that e-mail you saved and pasting it with the right URL in the right position (never do spaces) in your PPRuNe message box.
(P.S. : I have windows XP in Dutch here at home, so there may be some little terminology glitches)

In bocca al lupo! (good luck!)

I am off to think about your challange aircraft.

vonbag 20th May 2009 15:37

Carson1934 -
The aircraft in your last challenge should be the
Mitsubishi K3M3 (code name "Pine")

carson1934 20th May 2009 16:05

Hi Vonbag,

Yes, it is the Mitsubishi K3M3 "Pine".
Thanks for the explanations but right at the beginning I am already experiencing difficulties:
[B]2[B]There is no edit buttonon the lower right: there is only a Reply button in a yellowish box.
Can you please tell me where I go from there?:ugh::ugh::ugh:
carson1934

carson1934 20th May 2009 17:01

Hello Vonbag
here I am again bothering you.
The edit button came out of the blue and I followed your instructions to the letter.
However I think that either you missed the point or I didn't express myself correctly.
My problem is the following:
- when I transmit an image thru Photobucket to the forum, the recipients do normally see the image I transmit (like for instance is the case with post #1969)
but I cannot see iton my post.
It is as simple as that although I follow step by step procedures outlined by different members of this forum when I joined it back in April.
I would appreciate if you have a way of helping me out in this connection but obviously I do not want to use your valuable time neither do I want to use precious forum space.
If I cannot see the images I transmit then....so be it (the important thing is that recipients do!)
carson1934

MReyn24050 20th May 2009 17:38

carson1934. What Browser are you using? Your photograph you posted in Post #1969 show up on my PC both on Mozilla Firefox Browser and Windows Internet Explorer. So I am at a loss why you cannot see your own photograph on your PC.

drawbarz 20th May 2009 18:59

Hi Mel, Carson and Vonbag,

Sorry to jump in but, I know when I first started posting or attempting to post here I completely missed the 'post prewiew' button...this wouln't be Carsons problem too would it?

Best regards

John

drawbarz 20th May 2009 19:04

...and by the way Carson1934 your posts also appear in Google Chrome and Apple Safari

John

carson1934 20th May 2009 19:39

Thanks for your interest MReyn.
As a browser I use Mozilla Firefox and/or Internet explorer. I cannot see my own pictures on my edited posts for the simple reason that there is NO URL showing on my post.
The URL is correctly pasted (from Photobucket) in the small box above the message box then it is pasted over the message box itself (and it shows), I add the text, click the "submit reply" button and what happens? The text shows up beautifully in the thread, no trace of the urlon my post(therefore I do not know whether the image has gone thru) and the recipients are telling me that notwithstanding my not seeing the image they do!
Nice problem isnt'it?
carson1934

MReyn24050 20th May 2009 21:09

carson1934.
Taking drawbarz's point regarding the "preview post" button if when clicking on this button you do not see the photograph then it will not be there when you submit the post.
What you must be carefull of when posting the url in the image box is that there is not two "http://". When you first click on the post image icon a small window comes up and one is requested "Please enter the URL of your image:" and in the box you will note "http://" highlighted in blue. When one posts the URL it also includes an http://. Ensure you delete the second http:// heading your URL leaving the first http:// in place. I find it much easier to ignore the image icon and just copy and paste the photograph URL direct into the message box. Then check the "post preview" and ensure the photograph has been posted.
Mel

drawbarz 20th May 2009 21:24

Mel,

Just for the record I always put the image url straight into the message box too...:ok:

John

vonbag 20th May 2009 22:28

Hello all!.
Please, Carson1934 please refer to this forum here:
http://www.pprune.org/computer-inter...leshooting-46/
for any of your troubleshooting queries (Saab Dastard, and several others, appear to be very good experts on the matter).

Since my spirit was and is always continuity,
here is the next challenge:

http://members.ziggo.nl/bagaglia/Ita...ver_built_.jpg

It would have been an Italian (never) built "superiority" fighter aircraft :oh: -- I am giving give these hints since I have only this side view of the aircraft, here, at the moment.

Good luck to the next!

Kind regards, Paolo B.

carson1934 21st May 2009 08:54

Ciao Paolo,
thanks to everybody for the keen interesttowards my troubleshooting questions about images, sooner or later I will find a solution I hope...
Concerning your profile view, is it perhaps one of the unbuilt Reggiane's?
carson1934

carson1934 21st May 2009 09:17

[IMG]www.geocities.com/CapeCanaveral/Launchpad/2569/Re2006cover.jpg[/IMG]

Following up my previous post, maybe the Reggiane 2006 (probably built but never flown) if you can see my attachment....
carson1934

vonbag 21st May 2009 10:12

Ciao Carson1934,

Unfortunately it is not the Reggiane Re.2006. I cannot access your link,
so here is another link to the Re.2006 with some pictures:
Reggiane RE 2006 - Una storia vera.

Another hint for the current challenge:
this fighter (appears in the version fighter-bomber in the side view)
was designed by Ing. Rossi... close to a lake.

MReyn24050 21st May 2009 17:29

Was the engine an H-24 configuration?
Mel


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