Any Idea 2?
 

Any thoughts? Firstly what aircraft and secondly what is the modification?
I should add this is not from any other website :)
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c6...t/Anyidea2.jpg

Is it a Queen Bee, the remote controlled version of the Tigermoth?

Not a Queen Bee but I do believe it is a version of the Tiger moth

Your not wrong. The photograph appeared in an article, entitled "The Tiger Moth Fighter", in an October 1933 issue of Flight Magazine.
This Tiger Moth had been converted for use as a single seat fighter. A machine gun,firing through the propeller, was been mounted on the fuselage, and slung beneath the aircraft bomb racks capable of holding eight 20-lb.bombs. With a load of four bombs the machine carried fuel for a range of 500 miles. The machine gun. which had been tested on the machine, was manufactured by the Czechoslovakian Arms Factory, of Prague; the muzzle velocity is 839 m./sec, the maximum rate of fire 900, plus or minus 100 rounds a sec, the bore 7.92 mm., and a Pratt and Whitney synchronising gear is fitted, which was very light and efficient, the drive being taken from the top-half of the rear cover of the engine, where provision for hand-starting gear was normally allowed for. The gun was mounted in the front cockpit and shoots over the engine cowling; it was fixed to the machine mounting by two bolts, the rear bolt incorporating a vernier adjustment for direction and elevation. The ammunition box, holding 200 rounds, and the cartridge chute, were fixed to the mounting itself, the only connections between the gun mounting, and fuselage, being four holding-down bolts. The mounting was attached to the two top longerons by four bolts, but no extra holes have been drilled in the longerons.
In the photograph can be seen the gun mounting on the ejector side of the gun. The top chute is for the spent belt, and the larger chute for the used cartridges ; the muzzle of the gun can be seen in front between the " V " strut. An Aldis telescopic sight can be seen in the rear cockpit.
The article went on to say that "A detachment of this machine has been ordered by a foreign Government and has already been packed up for dispatch."
I am not sure what happened to the idea. Perhaps someone can shed some light on the subject.

Well done Speechless Two! I had no idea what that was.
Anyone got any other rarity's or oddity's?

I have many here and almost lost the lot today... :mad:
Hot water system blew and flooded the place out... The only casualty was and emergency handbook from 1910. The back cover is a bit warped, but it shall survive.

Edit: How about this?
http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o...bra/wtfit1.jpg

Is that some sort of parasitic fighter concept for hooking up to an airship?

Sorry, but nice try Cpt P.
Nothing to do with attaching to airships or anything like that.
I did copy this from a book and was surprised that it was also on the net if the correct keywords is put into the search engine.

Speechless Two,Yes it is a camera, in fact two cameras, but what's it mounted on? If you guess the reason, you will know what aircraft. (and vice versa)
Heres another slightly expanded shot.
http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o...ra/wtfit1b.jpg

I'm intrigued by Mel's mention of a 500 mile range. I've only been in a tigermoth once, from Barton to Audley End, and we had to stop at Sywell to refuel. I was told it would do about 2.5 hrs to dry at 70 kts.

There can be another fuel tank fitted just forward of the front cockpit. So maybe this gives it the extra range? I was told they were fitted to the RAAF ones because of the vast distances between fuel stops involved.
Anyone confirm?

Akubra
I think the aircraft is an Avro 504N and the camera is mounted above the tailplane.
Flap40
I appreciate your question, the figure quoted came from the Flight article, the article also stated that the engine was a Gypsy Major. I note that A J Jackson in his book De Havilland Aircraft since 1909 states the Tigermoth DH 82C had a range of 275 miles so whether this aircraft had a larger fuel tank I do not know

The Tiger Fighter
 

I would have thought a 70kt fighter in 1933 was doomed from the start, unless your enemy was equipped with WWI aircraft and even then I think I'ld back a Camel or an Albatros against a Tiger.

Speechless Two has it. :ok:
The Parnell Parasole with wool tufts and a wing that can be adjusted to variable incidence.
More interesting features and history can be viewed at this page.
http://www.chew76.fsnet.co.uk/parnall/chap5.html
http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o...ra/wtfit1a.jpg
Bristol Aviation site: http://www.chew76.fsnet.co.uk/

Edit: Speechless: You have one ready to post?

Would it have something to do with operations in long dry grass?

Looks like the expansion chamber that I fitted to my FS-1E when I was 16! Got at least another 2 mph out of it...

Looks like the boom assy at the rear is meant to be raised and lowered. How about a form of aerial refuelling from ships without landing on?

Sorry about the drift, but I've done some looking around on the Moths range and fuel capacity.
Tank:
http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o...ront-tank1.jpg
Filler Cap:
http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o131/acubra/cap.jpg
This front tank holds about 40 odd liters. Add that to the 80 liter 300 mile range in the top tank and It's highly unlikely it would make 500 miles. But then again, there would be more tank space as there is no passenger, so 500 mile range could be a reality.

Speechless Two I think you are correct that the Whirlwind at Post #17 was a
Whirlwind HAR Mk3. I think it is XG582 from 705 Sqn.

Message retrieval like the Army Co-op guys did between and during the wars?

How about some sniffer device to track schnorkeling subs? Long exhaust to clear away heli's own exhaust?

Dick W

I found a reference in Derek N James book Westland Aircraft since 1915 regarding the Whirlwind HAS.3 that some of the HAR.3s were equipped with US Asdic 194 (AQS-4) licence-built by R B Pullin and Co. Could the boom be connected with that?

Were these aircraft involved in Operation Grapple, collecting air samples? Derek James states " four Mk 3s also participated in Operation Grapple"
Although your last hint would possibly indicate chemical spraying.

Experimental mine sweeping gear?

Thank you, Speechless Two. Open House, Sir.

Lt Cdr John Sproule RN
 

Speechless Two.
I understand that the early marks of Whirlwind were provided with a pilot-operated power winch similar to that fitted in the Dragonfly. The boom however,was much too low and had to be traversed to get the casualty into the cabin. It is reported that Lt Cdr Sproule RN designed a raised boom so that the man hoisted was suspended much higher and could be swung easily into the cabin without moving the boom.

Any Idea 3?
 

Speechless Two. What a sad way to go!
Here is a nice easy one.
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c6...t/AnyIdea3.jpg

That is the one :ok:
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c6...gb-cofe_ru.jpg

I am sure this will not last long.
 

Upkeep Wellington?

Would that be a winch and spindle... Some form of early snatch recovery equipment perhaps?

Post #40
 

Fitter2 - Not a Wellington
Stevef - Not a winch, as such, and no it is not a form of snatch equipment.

Inflight refuel?

early glider tug?
BR om15

Post #40
 

proteus6 is on the right lines, i.e. Inflight refuel any idea what the aircraft is?

Armstrong Whitworth AW23?

I've found a picture in "Wings over Dorset" showing early tests of in flight refueling with various tanker aircraft. One picture shows an AW23 "feeding a line down to a Bristol Bombay while flying over Littlehampton"
The configuration of the AW23 seems to match Mel's picture.

Post #40
 

Stevef and Flap40.
That is the one the Armstrong Whitworth AW 23.
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c6...worth_AW23.jpg

Any Idea 3?
 

circa 1933
http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r...ined_Plane.jpg

Hi Evansb - er a Ryan M1 attempting an early STOL exercise or rehearsing for the hop to PPW?? :E


Edit: rehearsal for first shoot of "Ocean's 6" with the Capone gang in hot pursuit...or "Catch me if you can" :}

Edit: sorry about the thread drift/frivolity - mods please delete if you want, it's been a very hard week. Still think it's a Ryan though...

Fivolity okay by me:ok:. Please.. no jokes about an inclined plane.