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cosmiccomet 1st Mar 2009 23:36

Welcome to www.zonamilitar.com.ar/foros
 
Dear friends and collegues, you are very welcome to ZM forum.
We have many Malvinas/Falkands war veterans between the ZM's members.

It would be a pleasure to change information about the actions during the conflict.

See you around ZM.

reydelcastillo 2nd Mar 2009 01:06

Cosmicomet
 
Cosmicomet , we forgot to put the Link -
Do you know how to put it ?

Jualbo could you help us with the link - I don't know how to do it

Thank You -

Gabotdf 2nd Mar 2009 01:40

here is the link
Falklands War/ Guerra de Malvinas - Foros Zona Militar

Several of the Argie that have been posting here are going to be over there - Members of other Forums (Militaryphotos.net / Keypublishing / ) are going to be invited to participate
If anyone has a problem to register please let me know and I will be glad to help.
Any suggestion related to this rules is welcome.
A British Moderator has to be named , by British Participants
It will be a great honour for us to share experiences specially with war veterans.

Regulation

1) It is a bilingual forum with features of being English-speaking guests, the post in spanish will be translated into English
2) The posts in English, at the request of Argentine users will be translate to spanish
3) Only touch the issues specific to military actions during the conflict
4) Issues related to politics, discussions about sovereignty, historical background will be excluded - its a forum exclusively to talk about military action
5) You must use appropriate language, excluding bad words or insults and disqualifications
6) Not be allowed signatures and avatars with political slogans, issues about sovereignty and the historical background
7) Those who violate the rules will be warned only once, following action will be excluded / expelled

Objectives

Exchanging stories and information about military actions during the conflict in the South Atlantic War in order to know the true story of the actions

Santiago Rivas 2nd Mar 2009 14:25

Hi Jualbo, The photo is from the second wave, as the first one didn't reach the Glasgow. Do you know where to find this photo in greater size? it's very small to see the Skyhawk and the Glasgow well.

Santiago Rivas 2nd Mar 2009 14:33

Hi AR1, do you know how can I find this book about 1 Sqdn?

jualbo 2nd Mar 2009 22:08

Hi Enrique. I arrived late. Thanks to Gabotdf.

Hi Santiago. According to my info Vázquez overflew the target and dropped his bomb falling close to stern. In FAA webpage says that some Vázquez fellows were downed before get the ship but other were crashed after passing her. I´m sorry but don´t have the photo bigger. Ask for the person who put it in INTERNET.

Thanks AR-1 for the PM.

Regards

Santiago Rivas 3rd Mar 2009 13:38

Hi Jualbo, you're right, Vázquez could launched his bomb and didn't hit.

Navaleye 3rd Mar 2009 21:04

Cosmicomet said:


Also two Army Augusta 109 were ferried to UK and transfered to their army.
What became of these two birds when sent to the UK?

taxydual 4th Mar 2009 05:50

One, certainly, became an inventory item (and a much used one at that) with a certain Regiment that hung out in Hereford.

Santiago Rivas 4th Mar 2009 13:43

Both Agusta were first used by the Royal Marines and later used for SAS operations. I will look for their serials and complete stories at home. As far as I know, they are still in service in England.
Does anybody know what happened to the Army Chinook captured?

Green Flash 4th Mar 2009 13:58

Havn't the 109's been replaced recently? And didn't a working Huey also change ownership too? I seem to remember reading (Middlebrook??) that one was captured intact. Not having any experience of them ourselves I believe a concerted 'press everything' campaign eventually unearthed the starter button under the throttle!

ninja-lewis 4th Mar 2009 14:18

Santiago Rivas
"Both Agusta were first used by the Royal Marines and later used for SAS operations. I will look for their serials and complete stories at home. As far as I know, they are still in service in England.
Does anybody know what happened to the Army Chinook captured?"

This site has information on the Chinook:
Boeing's CH-47C Chinook in service to the country of Argentina.
Boeing's Mark 2 (HC2) Chinook helicopter.

scarecrow450 4th Mar 2009 18:53

Both the A109's are still in use but are being replaced by a more modern type.
Belive part of the Chinook was mated to a damaged RAF machine and I think !! it now flies as part of ZD704.

Santiago Rivas 5th Mar 2009 09:54

Hi, the Agustas were put in service by the Royal Marines until after arrival to England were overhauled and then delivered to the Army, with serials ZE411 the AE-331 and ZE410 the AE-334.

They used a civil paint scheme and are used for training for special units.

cosmiccomet 5th Mar 2009 13:16

Zona Militar website is under maintenance
 
Dear friends for 24/48 hrs, www.zonamilitar.com.ar is under maintenace.

I hope, it would be online tomorrow.

See you there.

Ariel

Gabotdf 8th Mar 2009 18:24

It's now online

Willoz269 9th Mar 2009 00:26

Found this photo on another forum.,..had never seen it before...Lt Jeff Glover being retrieved after ejecting.

RapidShare: Easy Filehosting

reydelcastillo 9th Mar 2009 13:19

Naveleye
 
Thank you Sir for coming by the Zona Militar forum -

Very few of us have had the Honor and Privilage of exchanging accounts with British Veterans and British Historians as you - For those few of us , we have realy learn a lot , we aere able to undersatnad that there is another side of the story besides that which had always been told to us -

Most of the members of the Zona Militar have never had the chance to read direct accounts of British Veterans as Griffith / Jimmy/ Mr Spencer and many more ) , they have never had the chance to read from British Historians that have devoted many years gathering information -
Al those Argies have been told told only one side of the Story , it's time for them to know the other side -

My Country has written the History , right there after the events , in the mid of the Fog of War , without doing checks and balance , without checking the info with other sources , and what we have now is the result of a History wich most probably has at least inacuracies -

That is why it is so important for them to be able to read from you all what is it that has happen during the conflict , and once and for all bury the ghosts of the war that we still have walking arround -

Thank you very much - Sincerely yours - Enrique Rey

As you have seen al post are in English , we have kind of an " Enigma Machine " , remmeber that Enigma Machine of WW 2, well this one translates directly from English to Spanish so they can understand -

Its also known as Google Translator that we use down there -

So please keep your posts , as usual in English , we handle the "enigma machine " Thank you -

SGWalter 11th Mar 2009 00:22

Arca
 
This is in response to the #85 comment.
I think that could be the crash of the Navy Captain Jose Cesar Arca's Skyhawk A4Q, that happened on 21st May 1982, at 16:30 (Argentine time).
Arca survived that mission and the video was taken by a former argentine navy marine officer, who was on the island for the purposes of video recording the war.

reydelcastillo 12th Mar 2009 12:47

SG Walter
 
I did not know that the Navy had someone recording the events -
I know about Kasanzew ( war corresponsal ) I saw him on the islands filming -
What else do you know that the Navy Officer may have film , which other event may he have recorded ?

Thank you
Regards Enrique


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