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wz662 10th Jan 2008 20:45

The curve of that coaming and the canopy jettison bar look familiar after 850 hours in a Slingsby Venture but the instrument fit doesn't, so is it a Motor Falke?
Not a clue about the airfield though.

Fitter2 10th Jan 2008 21:03

Strictly speaking a Motor Falke was the original shoulder wing two-stroke Scheibe motor glider trainer. Very close though.

Dick Whittingham 11th Jan 2008 08:46

Is that a runway plus ORP I see or a very wide runway?

Dick

Fitter2 11th Jan 2008 09:02

Ahead is a wide grass area with a narrower grass runway in it. It still has no hard runway.

The type was manufactured (licence build) in the North of England.

old,not bold 11th Jan 2008 14:33

Why is the passenger on the left? It doesn't look very helo-like.

Scrabbling for a clue, really.

Fitter2 11th Jan 2008 15:06

If I recall correctly (it was 33 years ago) the headset mic socket in the LH seat had gone u/s and I could reach everything I needed to from either seat.

The similarity to the Venture is not coincidental, although there are quite significant differences.

the incivil beast 11th Jan 2008 15:44

My feeling is that wz662 was thinking of the Slingsby T61 which has been know in some places by the name Motorfalke (here for instance ).

It is the license-built Scheibe SF25-B ("B-Falke", low wing configuration), in a "civilian" version, the Venture being the Air Cadet version. AFAIK, the main differences are the engine and wing spar.

Fitter2's mention of the Motorfalke was refering to the original Scheibe SF25-A

Fitter2 11th Jan 2008 16:04

The Slingsby T61 is a licence built Scheibe Falke SF25B. As indicated in my post last night the manufacturers never referred to the Falke as a Motorfalke, as this was the Scheibe's designation for the original (grossly underpowered but fun to fly in a masochistic sort of way) different aircraft entirely.

The T61 had the same wing as the German version, Slingsby built a carbon sparred variant for the ATC, and fitted a more powerful engine.

The picture was indeed taken from a T61C (G-BAMB) on approach to Sywell for the 1975 PFA Rally. The aircraft pictured on the incivil beast's link is by coincidence G-BAMB.

If the incivil beast feels generous he may let WZ662 carry on? Over to you.

wz662 11th Jan 2008 19:06

I have nothing to post so I hand the baton to the incivilbeast.
As for the passenger being in the left seat after nearly 30 years as an instructor I'm happy on the right, so much so that sitting on the left just feels wrong.

the incivil beast 11th Jan 2008 22:44

I had no intention whatsoever to steal wz662's victory which I explicitely acknowledegd in my post.

However, as I do have pictures ready, I'll be happy to take over the baton, thanks wz662 :ok:

Here is the next what cockpit :

http://www.marc-till.com/tmp/cockpit19.jpg

I'll have a rather busy morning tomorrow, and shall be unable to provide any answers, clues or comments before noon or so.

Cubs2jets 12th Jan 2008 00:58

TBM 700?

C2j

the incivil beast 12th Jan 2008 07:50

Strictly speaking, not the TBM 700, but you are very very close.

ozbeowulf 12th Jan 2008 10:04

the Incivil Beast's challenge
 
The TBM-850, then. Same panel, with the addition of a flap switch position to disable the torque limiter.

If correct, let Cubs2Jets have the next challenge.

Cubs2jets 12th Jan 2008 12:39

Very kind of you ozbeowulf!:D

This one will go quick.

http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/j...g?t=1200145003

C2j

the incivil beast 12th Jan 2008 13:08

it is indeed the TBM-850, same aiframe as the -700, with increased power (more than 300 kts @FL300 ISA)

MReyn24050 12th Jan 2008 13:14

C2J
 
As you say it will go quick, certainly off the ground. Please check PMs
Mel

Cubs2jets 12th Jan 2008 13:22

Mel,

Thanks for the PM.

Let this one play out or I do have another to post...

C2j

MReyn24050 12th Jan 2008 13:53

C2J
 
Most certainly let it play :).
Mel

windriver 12th Jan 2008 14:26

DH Dove perhaps?

Cubs2jets 12th Jan 2008 14:32

Not a DH Dove.

Don't mis-interpert the DH on the rudder pedals!:=

C2j


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