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MReyn24050 25th Aug 2013 23:43

Hi Trevor. You have it the Fiat G.80. From the Ed Coates Collection.
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c6...ps914f9301.jpg

You have control

SincoTC 26th Aug 2013 07:17

thanks Mel,

A nice challenge, I believe it was Italy's first true jet aircraft!

Pleased to find this one'e not on your list
http://i1138.photobucket.com/albums/...ps5a19e4c3.jpg

dubbleyew eight 26th Aug 2013 07:27

in SincoTC's photo shows a piece of absolute engineering brilliance.

the gear in the centre can be done with two sprockets that bolt together.
the aileron control wire terminates in a chain (like a bicycle chain). one chain is fed past a sprocket then to the control yoke sprocket and then back over the other central sprocket and then to the opposite aileron cable.

by biasing the central sprockets and bolting them together you can achieve high tensions in the cables out to the ailerons while maintaining low tensions in the run to the control yoke sprocket. the low tensions mean the the pilot feels light control pressures.

the technique was also used by Piper in their cherokees. absolutely brilliant piece of engineering.

SincoTC 27th Aug 2013 22:34

Hi W8,


the technique was also used by Piper in their cherokees. absolutely brilliant piece of engineering..
I agree, it is a clever solution, but one that was quite widely used where control can be "handed over" in a like manner, however, it's usually concealed by a snazzy cover and not left as an open invitation for a straying finger :eek: today's "Elfin Safety" would have a fit :E

By way of a clue, the control yoke's design is quite appropriate ;)

NutherA2 28th Aug 2013 09:20


By way of a clue, the control yoke's design is quite appropriate
A Moth of some sort?

SincoTC 28th Aug 2013 09:31

Morning NutherA2,


A Moth of some sort?
'Tiz indeed!!

Lightning Mate 28th Aug 2013 10:03

Morning TC.

DH85?

SincoTC 28th Aug 2013 10:11

Morning LM,


DH85?
Sorry, not a Leopard :)

Lightning Mate 28th Aug 2013 10:31

How about a 75 then.

SincoTC 28th Aug 2013 11:40

Hi David,


How about a 75 then
That's the one mate, the de Havilland DH.75 Hawk Moth :D

de Havilland Hawk Moth - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Lightning Mate has control :ok:

Lightning Mate 29th Aug 2013 08:18

Sorry mate - this will have to be OH.

Noyade 29th Aug 2013 11:08

Here's another to be going on with then...

http://i39.tinypic.com/nzitzs.jpg

evansb 30th Aug 2013 01:38

The giant Mil Mi-12 helicopter ?

Noyade 30th Aug 2013 11:04


Mil Mi-12
Well done Brian - massive machine! Your control. :ok:

evansb 30th Aug 2013 15:56

Thanks mate! This one is not on Mel's list: (although it may have been posted before)
http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r...psbcf7e1d4.jpg

John Hill 30th Aug 2013 20:05

Maybe a Heinkel He119?

SincoTC 30th Aug 2013 22:37

Just having a last minute look-in before hitting the hay, but no time to delve, so just a little speculation to maybe encourage any lurkers :)

Obviously a side-by-side two seater, probably a trainer? with a fuselage mounted jet engine behind the cockpit, so that ducting must be for its air intake in the nose. The duct isn't very big, so if there isn't another duct below it and out of sight, it must have quite a small engine or additional intakes further back

Not that many like this as most of this configuration had tandem seats and the intake duct was split to pass either side of the cockpit, or were located behind it.

Oh well, I'm off to bed, over to the night shift :)

evansb 31st Aug 2013 00:23

Not a German design, although there is a German engine connection.

aviate1138 31st Aug 2013 07:41

French? One of their weird post WW2 efforts?

evansb 31st Aug 2013 15:20

Oui. French. Oui, a trainer of sorts.


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