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jabberwok 24th Mar 2006 14:04

I think we are looking at completely different photographs. If so this may be a cache issue.
Can you confirm you are seeing this picture -
http://www.homepages.mcb.net/bones/WebPix/confused.jpg

treadigraph 24th Mar 2006 15:04

Well done Jabberwok, I had the same problem as 682AL. Pressed "Ctrl+F5" for a forced refresh and now see the Tri-Poke cockpit rather than the Heston. (I agree with 185Skywagon by the way!)

jabberwok 24th Mar 2006 15:47

I've been caught out by this effect before so I thought summat was amiss..

Can't guess the model myself but it looks like an early Piper yoke.

MReyn24050 24th Mar 2006 15:53

JabberwoK

I do now see a different picture to the one I saw when I commented before. Both pictures are now showing the drawing as against the picture of the Heston. I am now viewing these on my home PC with XP as against the one this morning which had Windows NT. As you say it sounds like a cache problem. I guess my other PC was looking for the URL address and came up with the previous photograph URL in it's memory and since this one is refreshed it now associates the previous post with the new photograph of 682al's latest post.
I do apologise for a moment I thought I was going crazy. Thanks for your patience.

Mel

jabberwok 24th Mar 2006 16:23

No apology needed Mel. :ok:

Let's get on with the serious work of completely failing to identify the offending item. :)

Saab Dastard 24th Mar 2006 18:15

It's Postman Pat, but where oh where is his black and white cat?

:p

MReyn24050 24th Mar 2006 18:49

He is behind the hat box.

barit1 24th Mar 2006 20:57

Not a PA22-108 Colt, it didn't have the aft side windows. :}

MReyn24050 25th Mar 2006 09:38

Brochure for the Piper Saratoga PA-32? However the style of the drawing would indicate something much earlier.

jabberwok 25th Mar 2006 10:25

I think 185Skywagon is probably right in saying the PA22 Tri Pacer - with a definitely streched imagination on behalf of the artist. It looks a lot bigger than the one I used to fly!

con-pilot 25th Mar 2006 16:10

If we are talking about the picture on post 2527 it is either a Tri-Pacer or the original Pacer (PA-20 I think).

I'm going for the Tri-Pacer because of the deck angle being level as the Pacer had conventional landing gear.

682al 25th Mar 2006 22:20

I'm back folks, and all I can see is an illustration of the cabin of a 1959 Piper Tri-Pacer 160, taken from an original sales brochure.

I deleted the Heston Phoenix photo at the same time as I uploaded this one, so I've no idea what caused the glitch - 'tweren't me, honest!

And I think 185Skywagon wins this round.

Now someone please post a photo of a 1930-1950 british cockpit so I can get back in the game! :D

jabberwok 26th Mar 2006 01:29


I deleted the Heston Phoenix photo at the same time as I uploaded this one, so I've no idea what caused the glitch - 'tweren't me, honest!
No - it wasn't. Some ISP's cache data retrieved by their users so that the next time you load the page it is from the local server and therefore a lot faster. It normally works quite well unless, as in this case, a picture is changed (same filename, different picture). Some users will still get the cached picture from the local server unless they force a full refresh as Treaders suggested.

Now let's see what 185Skywagon can throw at us.. :eek:

185skywagon 26th Mar 2006 05:54

I will have to hand over to someone else as I will away flying for the coming week.
cheers,
185

cringe 26th Mar 2006 10:34

Here's one that shouldn't last too long:

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b1...nge_/unk36.jpg

682al 26th Mar 2006 12:43

an early Messerschmitt 321 with single cockpit?

cringe 26th Mar 2006 12:55

Congrats 682al, you got it right once again. It's a Me-321A glider. Over to you now.

682al 26th Mar 2006 15:42

Thanks, Cringe,

I've made sure there is no similarity in url between this and any other jpeg I've uploaded, so hopefully, no confusion...:=

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v6...Untitled-x.jpg

foxmoth 26th Mar 2006 19:18

I would go for Beechcraft of some type.

682al 26th Mar 2006 19:26

Beechcraft, yes, but which type?

cringe 26th Mar 2006 19:52

B55 Baron ?

682al 26th Mar 2006 20:08

Correct, cringe. Back to you!

cringe 26th Mar 2006 20:23

Thanks. I've already posted a challenge today, so foxmoth or someone else please have the next go.

cringe 27th Mar 2006 09:18

If there are no takers, try this next:

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b1...ge_/unk-37.jpg

whitley_project 27th Mar 2006 14:55

Hello everyone

Sorry to gatecrash... This one is very difficult and I would be very grateful for any expert knowledge. I picked this instrument panel up at Shoreham aerojumble in the UK at the weekend. Originally it apparently had a full set of British WWI instruments. These are long gone, but I would like to know which aircraft the panel originated from.

Can anyone ID it?

The panel is fairly large - approx 50 cm.

Thank you!!

Elliott

http://forum.keypublishing.co.uk/att...hmentid=118379

MReyn24050 27th Mar 2006 15:22

whitley_project

Certainly not from a Camel, Snipe, SE5, Avro 504K or Gunbus. Looks a bit sparse for a WWI Fighter perhaps it is from DH Moth.

MReyn24050 27th Mar 2006 15:25

Cringe

Are we looking at an Aircraft from the European side of the atlantic. Maybe a Klemm KI 32?

cringe 27th Mar 2006 15:41

Mel,

European side, yes. This aircraft came much later than the Kl-32.

MReyn24050 27th Mar 2006 19:59

YAK 10 or YAK 12 but I think I may have gone too far east?

cringe 27th Mar 2006 20:08

Good call on the era and location, though it isn't a Yak.

MReyn24050 28th Mar 2006 05:48

Thanks Cringe
A complete stab in the dark MG-8 UTKA Light Support Aircraft?

cringe 28th Mar 2006 07:24

Bigger than UTKA. We had the manufacturer in this quiz before, but it's not Mig.

MReyn24050 28th Mar 2006 08:02

Possibly an early Antonov AN2 or Polikarpov U-2 Po-2?

cringe 28th Mar 2006 09:28

Right size with the An-2, but this one isn't a biplane.

MReyn24050 28th Mar 2006 11:03

Cringe
I am really lost here now, I suggest the UTVA Cijan C3 Troika but I do not think it is as big as the AN2.

cringe 28th Mar 2006 12:21

Sorry, this one was Russian (Utva/Cijan were Yugoslav I think). Not Antonov or Polikarpov.

MReyn24050 28th Mar 2006 12:46

cringe

I think I am going to get my feet wet here and propose the Beriev MBR-5 or -7.

cringe 28th Mar 2006 13:44

Not a MBR-5 or 7, but you are nearly there. :)

MReyn24050 28th Mar 2006 14:58


Originally Posted by cringe
Not a MBR-5 or 7, but you are nearly there. :)

Perhaps I should have gone for the civil Beriev MP-1bis.

cringe 28th Mar 2006 15:06

A Beriev it is, though it came later than the MP-1.


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