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SQUAWKIDENT 24th Oct 2003 17:28

This Afternoon
 
Typing this in my office in Fulham directly under the ILS approach for 27 Right (the current landing runway).

Presumably (unless the wind changes direction) the final approach of the Concorde(s) will be on 27Left (due to the usual runway change at 1500) or (we hope!) Jerrico and team will be able to guide them in on both 27L/27R - you'll certainly have the BIGGEST crowd ever thanking you guys:-)

What is the ETA for landing at Heathrow this afternoon? Is it 1600 (local)?

PS: I will also be most upset at the departure of this fantastic aircraft. It inspired me as a schoolboy in the mid 70's to take to the sky as a PPL. Another knife in British Airways heart.

ExGrunt 24th Oct 2003 17:38

Goodbye
 
Just a note to wish everyone involved today all the best. My father was on the first fare paying flight back in '76.

As a true Rolls Royce, I think Mr Royce's comments are a fine epitaph:

"The quality will be remembered long after the price is forgotten"

:{

EG

CaptainFillosan 24th Oct 2003 18:01

I guess it was only right and fair that the wx should be kind to the three beauties today.

2003/10/24 09:02

EGLL 240902Z 241019 31008KT 9999 SCT030
]


I am going to miss that aeroplane! :{ :{ :{

DW11 24th Oct 2003 18:05

Current plan is that all three will land 27R 15:40-15:45.

brockenspectre 24th Oct 2003 18:28

Concorde at Filton - the future
 
What will be the status of the Concorde to be based at Filton? Once she is there who will own her and at what point will BA have no further say in what happens to her? Surely.. as with the Battle of Britain Memorial Flight there could be a Concorde charity/trust, with sponsorship from all interested parties (including Virgin! and no I don't mind what colours our pointy bird is painted in! if it means she stays flying). What kind of certification would be required to maintain her as an historical aircraft? To the extent that Airbus Industrie must have a shed-load of spares (after all they only recently stopped production according to BA) and the blueprints, then ... what use will they be after the last flight "home" so couldn't they be donated to the charity/trust?

Can someone please tell me why it cannot be possible to maintain one flying Concorde? after all, think of all the engineers and pilots who have zillions of hours of expertise on type that will go to waste ....

:confused:

P.S. anyone with access to BBC News 24 switch it on as it is running a series of updates throughout their show today - at the moment they are at New York - last flight on AG includes Joan Collins and Jeremy Clarkson as pax ...



SQUAWKIDENT 24th Oct 2003 18:29

Putney
 
For those in London who can't get along to EGLL for the landing (me included) Putney Bridge in SW6 is an excellent place to watch landings onto both 27 Left and Right as there is a clear view down the River Thames eastwards.

That's assuming the wind doesn't swing round later!

BEagle 24th Oct 2003 18:34

Porky was quite emotional at the NY briefing. Marshall as cold and calculating as ever...even plugged John (Juan?) King. I can never forgive those 2 for the Dirty Tricks era, nor will I fly ba until they're no longer part of the company.

Good line from Jeremy Clarkson to some Spam journo:

Spam: "What emotion will you feel when you get off at Heathrow"

JC: "Well, I think I'll borrow one from one of you lot. One small step for a man, one giant leap backwards for mankind"

Le mot juste :ok: Nicely put, JC!

Postman Plod 24th Oct 2003 18:38

27??? NOOOOO!!!! What happened to the Easterlies! I'd quite happily assumed Windsor Great Park would be fine! curses, foiled again.... BBC2 it is then. :(

Coming home from work last night, and Windsor Castle was lit up like a bright thing, however listening from Slough to Concorde taking off to the East, did she ever go over the castle?? I did hear another roar about 5 mins later, but wasn't sure what it was :confused:

Kolibear 24th Oct 2003 19:05

The TSR2 turning in its grave

noisy 24th Oct 2003 19:05

Watching Sky News:

A beautiful landing at Edinburgh at Midday followed by a figure of 8 & backtrack.

Noisy

BA002 pushed back at JFK. Stars & Stripes and Union flag out of the cockpit windows.

Woodman 24th Oct 2003 19:13

Nice one, Kolibear

simfly 24th Oct 2003 19:29

Latest EGLL TAF:-
LONDON/HEATHROW EGLL 24/10-19Z 31008KT 9999 SCT030

that should just tell us which runway (hopefully runwaysssss :ok: )

Who knows, you have the vulcan salvation group, surely there will be similar for an even greater bird, let's hope so.

Si

noisy 24th Oct 2003 19:34

Speedbird 002 is ready for departure RWY 31L at JFK.

: (

12.36

A/c departs. beautiful curved departure.

brockenspectre 24th Oct 2003 19:52

Track Concorde across the Atlantic
 
In case any of you, like me, are not working today and have the chance to watch TV and/or be online, you may like to track Concorde's progress across the Atlantic via this link Track a Flight just go to the Advanced option and type in BAW2 as the Flight Number !!

;) :ok:

P.S. don't be put off by the flight time/time remaining - these are standards set for the average transatlantic flight!

Rugz 24th Oct 2003 19:57

Brockie,

You star!!

Am working (ish) but will keep my eye on the progress of concorde on this site.

CBLong 24th Oct 2003 19:57

BBC Online currently reporting:


Planes from New York, Edinburgh and one that has completed a loop over the Atlantic arrive in Heathrow 1600 BST
Lucky ******s! I hope no-one spilt their champagne whilst inverted...

:)

PAXboy 24th Oct 2003 20:20

May I suggest that all those (probably new to PPRuNe) asking why Concorde cannot be kept in the air, either commercially or as an historic flight AND why BA will not sell to VS - that you search the archives. All these have been explained MANY times and need not be answered again.

steamchicken 24th Oct 2003 20:49

Well, it would be pointless romanticism and a denial of the hard-nosed realities of the market, childishly spotterish and a waste of my valuable time...so, of course, I'm going!

brockenspectre 24th Oct 2003 20:51

PaxBoy I ran several searches of the archives about a Concorde historical trust but didn't find anything so apologies if my post irritated - I thought I was asking something new ...

Pax-man 24th Oct 2003 20:54

Hey everybody, do you not realise that today is a HUGE PR day for BA??

I will personally be amazed if this is the last we see of Concorde, but nobody would be stupid enough to annouce it prior to all this...

Just look at all the TV coverage it's getting. I've got Sky News on in the office and it's all they're talking about!

Call me a bit cynical, but I think the sadness may just be a bit premature - congrats to the publicity guru behind it all... something is bound to be annouced once the eyes dry up!

However, if I'm wrong, then we're all witnessing the biggest backwards step in the history of modern technology. Let's hope we're all being duped!


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