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Smoketoomuch 24th Oct 2003 05:26

Couple of news reports on Canadian TV. Everyone in the world is sad about this.

http://tinyurl.com/s44m

Shame on BA for not even making all the final flights details easily available so at least people can look out their window when it goes over one last time.

matspart3 24th Oct 2003 05:45

Heathrow TAF

EGLL 231625Z 240018 33008KT 9999 FEW025 BECMG 0104 6000 TEMPO 0509 3000 BR BECMG 1012 9999

Looks good for westerlies

Jordan D 24th Oct 2003 06:32

matspart - can you translate that into English for those who can't read that string.

Cheers,
Jordan

opsmaneurope 24th Oct 2003 06:47

0000-1800 GMT wind 330/08kts Vis 10km + Few cloud @ 2500ft becoming 0100-0400 vis 6000m temporarily 0500-0900 3000m in mist becoming 1000-1200 crap gone

shuttlebus 24th Oct 2003 06:53

EGLL 27' W 5129' N Elevation: 79 feet
Updated At : 23:20:00 GMT Standard Time
Temp: 3 C / 37 F
Humidity: 93 %
Clouds: Sky clear
Visibility: Unlimited
Wind: 7 knots from 350 ( N )
Windchill: -7 C / 19 F
Dew point: 2 C / 36 F
Pressure: 1023 hPa
Sunrise: 7:27 , Sunset: 18:01
METAR: EGLL 232220Z 35007KT CAVOK 03/02 Q1023 NOSIG

Forecast for: EGLL
Valid From: / 10 / 2003 ( :00) to the 24 th ( :00)
Overnight Fair with mist with winds from the N at 8 mph.
Morning Fair with mist with winds from the N at 8 mph.
Afternoon Fair with winds from the N at 8 mph.
Evening Fair with winds from the N at 8 mph.
TAF: EGLL 232220Z 35007KT CAVOK 03/02 Q1023 NOSIG


If the wind is from the North, will LHR be on Easterlies or Westerlies :confused: :confused: :confused:

invalid entries 24th Oct 2003 12:42

If the wind is fromthe North or very light (<5 kts) Easterly, then they use westerlies

jumpship 24th Oct 2003 14:54

Arrival/Departure times
 
Taken from thi mornings the BAA Heathrow flight arrival/departures website.

BA9020C Depart 1005(L) Edinburgh
BA9022C Depart 1405(L)

BA002 i/b JFK eta 1555(L)
BA9021C i/b Edinburgh eta 1555(L)
BA9022C i/b supersonic from somewhere !!eta 1550(L)

Hope this helps...........enjoy the experience:{

Autofly 24th Oct 2003 15:20

For the final flight into Heathrow this afternoon, what a feeling for the pilot!!! All these people turning up to watch them land the worlds most famous aircraft for the last time ......... go around mate, go on ...... get another 20 mins out of her and give us all a second look!!!!! ;)

AF

Roobarb 24th Oct 2003 15:37

Mr Eddington looked uncomfortable, and far from convincing on BBC Breakfast as he tried to answer the question Why?

He acknowledged the aircraft’s position as a flagship of the company, and a totally unique niche market that no-one else can offer. Yet incongruously, he then says it’s being grounded for commercial reasons, and that Airbus have said no more type certificate for commercial reasons.

What the BBC failed to ask him was why BA had spent £100m refurbishing the aircraft to close it down after just one year back in the skies. It doesn’t add up, it doesn’t make sense.

The only clear explanation came from Mr Branson in the News. ‘Concorde is being grounded because some accountant in BA says it is..

A very sad, pointless, soulless, black day for British aviation.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/cult/roobarb/images/32/15.gif

No comment 24th Oct 2003 15:45

Last night
 
Managed to find a place in Poyle to watch the arrival, very sad as the pilot flashed the lights on finals (although cant imagine it being as spectacular as the parallel approach on Wednesday night!). Its still amazing after all these years.
Then it was the quick dash to Hatton Cross!
The lengths everyone went to to get a good view. The footbridge by the station was jam packed, the car park overflowed onto the A30, the perimeter road stopped (did that National Express coach come back for another look, I think it did..) we got moved on from waiting in BP (along with a lot of others).
There must have been hundreds of cars there and all for what can only be described as the most spectacular takeoff i've ever seen.

Does anyone have a transcript of the pilot's final words? After the sentiments of the tower he just sat on the runway with the r/t on and dedicated the flight followed by a very calm "3.....2....1.... " and then she was off!

M.Mouse 24th Oct 2003 15:54


The only clear explanation came from Mr Branson in the News. ‘Concorde is being grounded because some accountant in BA says it is..
Roobarb

You work for BA, go and see Mike Bannister and ask him. You will learn some facts that are incontrovertible. Far more than the uninformed speculation and rubbish that has been spouted here since the announcement of the retirement.

BEagle 24th Oct 2003 16:11

"You work for BA, go and see Mike Bannister and ask him. You will learn some facts that are incontrovertible."

OK - Give us the Porky Pies then:E

Skippy did indeed look very shifty on TV this morning. "It was the accountants who closed it down" was the statement on BBC News 24.

ba......$tards:{

GodisMyCopilot 24th Oct 2003 16:22

anyone see Richard Branson on Newsnight?He said he wants to keep the bird in Bristol IN BA COLOURS and not even pack her with passengers, just keep her flying!

I have no idea why BA will not sell her, after all the govenment brought the aircraft for BA in the first place!

They are scared that Virgin might make any sort of profit out of her and if they say that its to expensive to run let Branson buy them and let him lose money surely that is a good thing for BA anyway to have their competitors lose money! BA Could'nt run a p*** up in a brewery, they spent 100m on concorde a year ago only to get rid of them now! crazy.....

Just another example of this country losing its pride.

Anyone know whats happening to the Air France Birds?Are they still flying?

jumpseat 24th Oct 2003 16:42

From AP today.

"The man at the controls of Friday's flight was expected to be Capt. Michael Bannister, British Airways' chief Concorde pilot, who estimated he has logged 8,000 hours and about 8 million miles — the equivalent of 16 round trips to the moon — since he began flying the supersonic jets in 1997."

BUSY MAN

On Odd Reddington.

He ruined Industrial relations at CX
He turned the lights out at Ansett.

Look out below!
:sad:

olholh 24th Oct 2003 16:58

I am sad that Concorde is no more. I am sad that the real reason for closing her down is not known. I am sad that efforts to keep her alive is not welcomed. Sad, sad, sad, sad, sad, sad, sad, sad, sad, sad, sad, sad, sad, sad, sad.........................

I am glad that I've seen her take off twice, land once. I am glad I have reason to visit Yeovil occasionally and see her mummified version.

Thank You Britain/France, do it again sometime.

BRISTOLRE 24th Oct 2003 16:58

LHR & TRANSCRIPTS
 
Yes, there is a downloadable transcript of a sad final BA001 departure from LHR last night, and how impressive that was at 1920local.
Very nice how they managed to keep the afterburners going onright round until on heading of 275degrees!! Well done.

Double parking on the A30 !! that was fun.
Police, powerless and lots of disobedience.

Today aircraft departing on Westerlies but keep your eyes out incase a sudden change, the wind out from the NW this am.

The general website is www.concordesst.com with links from a discussion page to the transcript.
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Jordan D 24th Oct 2003 17:00

URGENT
 
I will be off to EDI shortly (after my morning lecture), but I need to know what the direction of landing/take off will be so I can position myself accordingly.

Thanks.

Jordan

Kirstey 24th Oct 2003 17:05

Hi

What freq will Concordes be on prior to 120.4. Will it be 119.72?

ta

topdog1 24th Oct 2003 17:23

concorde
 
WHAT A SAD DAY,IS THIS THE END OF BRITISH AVIATION ACHIEVEMENT.!!!!!!!!:{

BEagle 24th Oct 2003 17:28

After today, the British lion will roar no more......


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