PI Staines (HS121 -3C)
Thread Starter
Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: Middlesesx
Posts: 2,075
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Those of us that watched the air traffic programme last night will have seen the memorial to pax that died at Milan. A tree for each victim in decorative gardens.
I have been impressed to on entering the dual carriage way into Canvey Island where once again trees are plannted either siide to commemorate the loss of life in the floods. Last time I went there each tree had a yellow ribbon attached.
I have been impressed to on entering the dual carriage way into Canvey Island where once again trees are plannted either siide to commemorate the loss of life in the floods. Last time I went there each tree had a yellow ribbon attached.
Further to my earlier post on letters to interested parties, I have received the following response/s
Councillor John O'Hara of Spelthorne Council has canvassed the Council and found support both financially and in co-ordination strategically. In turn he has spoken to the local newspaper, the Staines & Ashford News who published an article on 10th Septemebr 2003, seeking views from local residents on the possible site for a memorial.
I also rececived a personal letter from Rod Eddington of BA, expressing support for the memorial, and surprise that no memorial was at the site of the crash. He has asked that I contact his Head of Community Relations, which wil be done jointly by myself and Joh O'Hara.
I am very conscious that this is a very sensitive subject within aviation history. I will also be writing in due to BALPA for their input, and hope that BA can reach out to retired staff for further information.
I would be grateful if others who read this post, and wish to assist, to contact me so a degree of independence can also be added to any efforts in the establishment of a memorial.
Councillor John O'Hara of Spelthorne Council has canvassed the Council and found support both financially and in co-ordination strategically. In turn he has spoken to the local newspaper, the Staines & Ashford News who published an article on 10th Septemebr 2003, seeking views from local residents on the possible site for a memorial.
I also rececived a personal letter from Rod Eddington of BA, expressing support for the memorial, and surprise that no memorial was at the site of the crash. He has asked that I contact his Head of Community Relations, which wil be done jointly by myself and Joh O'Hara.
I am very conscious that this is a very sensitive subject within aviation history. I will also be writing in due to BALPA for their input, and hope that BA can reach out to retired staff for further information.
I would be grateful if others who read this post, and wish to assist, to contact me so a degree of independence can also be added to any efforts in the establishment of a memorial.
Recently published in the Staines & Ashford News, a memorial stained glass window is to be dedicated at St Marys Church, Staines, Middlesex on 18th June 2004.
It is also anticipated that a memorial garden will be established at Moormede Park, close to the actual site of the crash.
This will be funded by contributions from BA, BAA, Spelthorne Boro’ Council, and Thames Water.
I will keep updates posted.
It is also anticipated that a memorial garden will be established at Moormede Park, close to the actual site of the crash.
This will be funded by contributions from BA, BAA, Spelthorne Boro’ Council, and Thames Water.
I will keep updates posted.
Thread Starter
Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: Middlesesx
Posts: 2,075
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Very well done. Nearer the time I am sure we can get the article covered in the BA news as well, as I am sure many serving / retired BA staff remember this sad event. Best regards.
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: Manchester
Posts: 323
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
As an Ex- Farnborough lad I can confirm that in my time at the R.A.E. (1978-1985) there were no bits of Papa India left.
Also as an aside some body in B.A. does think about things as when B.A. operated the A.T.P. thier registrations were G-ATPA to G-ATPH and then G-ATPJ, It seems that somebody couldn't bear the thought of another Paper India in the fleet.
Also as an aside some body in B.A. does think about things as when B.A. operated the A.T.P. thier registrations were G-ATPA to G-ATPH and then G-ATPJ, It seems that somebody couldn't bear the thought of another Paper India in the fleet.
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: Farnborough, Hants
Posts: 52
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
The Irish survivor mentioned was one of a contingent of 11 Civil Servants who were on their way to Brussels as part of an Irish government delegation prior to joining the EEC. One of the members of this group was the brother of an Irish language teacher in our school in Dublin.
An accident which seems to have disappeared into the bowels of history is the fatal crash of the BEA Vanguard near Ghent - which only occured a year previous to the Papa India disaster.
An accident which seems to have disappeared into the bowels of history is the fatal crash of the BEA Vanguard near Ghent - which only occured a year previous to the Papa India disaster.
Dr Illitout the CAA never allow re-issued of a registration regardless of the circumstances of it's cancellation so it's nothing to do with BA I'm afraid.
Gnome de PPRuNe
Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: Too close to Croydon for comfort
Age: 60
Posts: 12,634
Received 300 Likes
on
168 Posts
Only the last two were the same - the Trident was G-ARPI, the ATPs were G-BTPA, etc... when they were registered (anorak on, sorry), I wondered why they'd missed out G-BTPI - is that gospel Dr Illitout?
Join Date: Oct 1999
Location: UK
Posts: 3,325
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
An accident which seems to have disappeared into the bowels of history is the fatal crash of the BEA Vanguard near Ghent
It was well reported at the time IIRC. Corrosion of rear pressure bulkhead due chemicals etc from toilet area led to explosive decompression at altitude. Pressure released into the tailcone and blew the skins off the tail section. I think it went in just about vertically.
SSD
It was well reported at the time IIRC. Corrosion of rear pressure bulkhead due chemicals etc from toilet area led to explosive decompression at altitude. Pressure released into the tailcone and blew the skins off the tail section. I think it went in just about vertically.
SSD
I have not ignored or forgotten the other crashes that have been referred. I was also around when the BOAC 707 returned to LHR, and an Argosy incident at LHR - details unsure. None are forgotten.
My interest in PI was personal.
I have been contacted by the first police officer who arrived on scene, and he wishes to be present in June.
I hope this post remains at the head of this formum.
My interest in PI was personal.
I have been contacted by the first police officer who arrived on scene, and he wishes to be present in June.
I hope this post remains at the head of this formum.
There is also no 'Papa India' in BA's A319 fleet, which otherwise includes the batch G-EUPA to 'PZ. I'm sure this is for the same reason.
As a resident of Staines, now but not then, I have been following this thread with interest.
Rhys.
As a resident of Staines, now but not then, I have been following this thread with interest.
Rhys.
I have received the following information from Councillor John O'Hara of Spelthorne Council.
Work is to commence on a memorial garden close to the site of the crash, on common land.
A stained glass window is to be installed at a local church, I believe St Marys. This glass will be of a dove, crossing a light beam surrounded by 118 stars, ( to represent the number killed).
The cost of these memorials is being met by Spelthorne Council, British Airways, and British Airports Authority, equally.
The church service of commeration will be on 18th June this year.
A reception will be held afterwards.
Since publication in the local newspaper, a number of individuals have come forward. These include the first person on scene, a midwife living nearby, the first police officers, and local residents.
It is hoped the more press interest will be generated nearer the date.
I understand that internal notices will appear in BA & BAA publications.
If I receive further information, or view press features I will up date.
Work is to commence on a memorial garden close to the site of the crash, on common land.
A stained glass window is to be installed at a local church, I believe St Marys. This glass will be of a dove, crossing a light beam surrounded by 118 stars, ( to represent the number killed).
The cost of these memorials is being met by Spelthorne Council, British Airways, and British Airports Authority, equally.
The church service of commeration will be on 18th June this year.
A reception will be held afterwards.
Since publication in the local newspaper, a number of individuals have come forward. These include the first person on scene, a midwife living nearby, the first police officers, and local residents.
It is hoped the more press interest will be generated nearer the date.
I understand that internal notices will appear in BA & BAA publications.
If I receive further information, or view press features I will up date.
I can now confirm that a service will be held at St Marys Church, Staines, Middx, to dedicate a stained glass window, to Papa India, on 18th June 2004. The Bishop of Kensington will officate.
A memorial garden is also under development at the rear of Moor mede Avenue, Staines close to the crash site. All has been funded equally by Spelthorne Boro Council, British Airways and BAA.
I understand that relatives of crew victims have expressed an interest to attend. The local newspaper Staines & Egham News have been running regular articles.
Any further information can be obtained from Spelthorne Boro Council.
A memorial garden is also under development at the rear of Moor mede Avenue, Staines close to the crash site. All has been funded equally by Spelthorne Boro Council, British Airways and BAA.
I understand that relatives of crew victims have expressed an interest to attend. The local newspaper Staines & Egham News have been running regular articles.
Any further information can be obtained from Spelthorne Boro Council.
The order of events on 18th June 2004 are as follows:
10.00am The garden/quiet are is to be opened at the end of Moormede Drive, Staines, close to the site of the crash.
11.00am Service of dedication of the stained glass window at St Marys Church, Staines.
10.00am The garden/quiet are is to be opened at the end of Moormede Drive, Staines, close to the site of the crash.
11.00am Service of dedication of the stained glass window at St Marys Church, Staines.
Join Date: Jul 2000
Location: On the approach to EGLL
Posts: 110
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Just returned from the Papa India memorial service and dedication of the stained glass window.
A full house with press in attendance.
Memorial window is superb; it pictures country life and a skyscape with 118 stars in the surrounds. One star for each life lost.
Well worth a visit if you are in the centre of Staines (St Mary's Church).
Preppy
A full house with press in attendance.
Memorial window is superb; it pictures country life and a skyscape with 118 stars in the surrounds. One star for each life lost.
Well worth a visit if you are in the centre of Staines (St Mary's Church).
Preppy