Dam Buster re run
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I've read this thread back to front and I was going to say that I wouldn't fancy the approach to the Eder dam on a fine day with CAVOK in a microlight. And then Beagle says he did it in a jet. I've visited the site by car with a relation who flew B-24s and he didn't put it at the top of his "must do" list.
Good to see 617 Sqdn are back from the Gulf with no losses. At least the RAF are allowed to keep some traditions going.
Good to see 617 Sqdn are back from the Gulf with no losses. At least the RAF are allowed to keep some traditions going.
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617 flies Panavia Tornado GR4s from RAF Lossiemouth in Scotland:
http://www.raf.mod.uk/raflossiemouth/index2.html
617 flies Panavia Tornado GR4s from RAF Lossiemouth in Scotland:
http://www.raf.mod.uk/raflossiemouth/index2.html
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"FlyPast" Special...
After all this talk of the Dams Raid, I had to find out more.
Here in LA, of all places, I found a special "FlyPast" issue entitled "Bomber Command" , with articles relating to the Dams Raid and the "Dambusters Weekend" that somebody talked about earlier. It also shows all the old RAF Bomber Command airfields, which is fascinating; especially the photos from today. It has an article with 2-3 photos of Guy Gibson's dog, and his grave. Had no idea the poor ****** was killed by a car while GG was out on the raid. How tragic.
I must get to Canada and the UK to see the last 2 flying Lancasters. I can imagine what pride you all must have at seeing such a glorious and powerful British-built bomber flypast at low-level. I had my photo taken next to the one at Hendon, when I was 11 years old. My Dad was very amused to see the caption on "S- Sugar"s fuselage that said "No enemy plane will fly over the Reich territory"---atributed to Herman Goering, what with 100+ bombing runs painted on the nose!
Here in LA, of all places, I found a special "FlyPast" issue entitled "Bomber Command" , with articles relating to the Dams Raid and the "Dambusters Weekend" that somebody talked about earlier. It also shows all the old RAF Bomber Command airfields, which is fascinating; especially the photos from today. It has an article with 2-3 photos of Guy Gibson's dog, and his grave. Had no idea the poor ****** was killed by a car while GG was out on the raid. How tragic.
I must get to Canada and the UK to see the last 2 flying Lancasters. I can imagine what pride you all must have at seeing such a glorious and powerful British-built bomber flypast at low-level. I had my photo taken next to the one at Hendon, when I was 11 years old. My Dad was very amused to see the caption on "S- Sugar"s fuselage that said "No enemy plane will fly over the Reich territory"---atributed to Herman Goering, what with 100+ bombing runs painted on the nose!
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Actually, I used the word 'b-u-g-g-e-r' , not the N-word.
Oh, well; still its a tragedy his dog was killed after being hit by a car.
Any chance I could get a VHS tape set of the Dambusters program from Ch.4?
Can't believe they used PC pilots, when historically we all know those pilots were white males. That was then, this is now; they should be historically accurate. PC be damned.
Oh, well; still its a tragedy his dog was killed after being hit by a car.
Any chance I could get a VHS tape set of the Dambusters program from Ch.4?
Can't believe they used PC pilots, when historically we all know those pilots were white males. That was then, this is now; they should be historically accurate. PC be damned.
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I believe the programme was released on DVD and VHS yesterday, along with the 1954 film on DVD on the 12th May.
Amazon.co.uk seems to have it available but not Amazon.com - you could try getting it shipped over from the UK
Amazon.co.uk seems to have it available but not Amazon.com - you could try getting it shipped over from the UK
I recently bought a VHS PAL copy of The Dam Busters direct from amazon.co.uk . It is a copy of the original film and Nig ger's real name is used throughout.
Not sure whether there is a DVD version yet.
Regarding the PC-nanny naughty word filter, try typing the name of a town in Linconshire beginning in 'Scun' and ending in 'thorpe'. If you type it properly, the nanny changes it. 'Scun thorpe' is OK - but 'S****horpe' isn't! See what I mean?
EDIT: Have just checked - the DVD (Region 2) is due to be released on 12 May 03. Not sure of the format though. And I bought it on VHS! ****** it - oops, I mean bug ger it!
Not sure whether there is a DVD version yet.
Regarding the PC-nanny naughty word filter, try typing the name of a town in Linconshire beginning in 'Scun' and ending in 'thorpe'. If you type it properly, the nanny changes it. 'Scun thorpe' is OK - but 'S****horpe' isn't! See what I mean?
EDIT: Have just checked - the DVD (Region 2) is due to be released on 12 May 03. Not sure of the format though. And I bought it on VHS! ****** it - oops, I mean bug ger it!
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If you are keen to get the DVD of the original film "Dambusters", and the region is not a problem for you I would be happy to arrange it. I am sure BEags has done is homework, which means I can order it. You can e-mail me and discuss the details.
I have just bought a DVD/CD-ROM, which is all regions, and just sitting quietly watching a film is great. (When I get time!)
IFR
If you are keen to get the DVD of the original film "Dambusters", and the region is not a problem for you I would be happy to arrange it. I am sure BEags has done is homework, which means I can order it. You can e-mail me and discuss the details.
I have just bought a DVD/CD-ROM, which is all regions, and just sitting quietly watching a film is great. (When I get time!)
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Not so N, but still FG
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Re the pilot being a woman. This was not a re-enactment of the event, but an experiment to see if modern military aircrew could emulate the achievements of their forbears, whilst also demonstrating what major feats the original flights were. On this basis, including a woman who has earned RAF wings seemed fine to me.
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Slightly off topic, somebody posted this wav file of a Lanc crew over Berlin on another website,
Apologies if it has been posted beflore now.
http://www.stolly.org.uk/lanc.wav
Apologies if it has been posted beflore now.
http://www.stolly.org.uk/lanc.wav
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Frustratingly missed the second part. That after missing most of the first part because my little bro called about something important 
. Such is life 
. However, got the book. Quite an interesting read.
Re comments about PC selection of woman pilot, understand from book that her selection was because of most multi-engine experience from group. Right man for the job, even if it is a woman?
Comely wench as well
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Other woman on crew apparently an ex-copper. Looked a mean 'un who would have no qualms about dropping bombs anywhere
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Slightly changing subject, my masters dissertation was about Derwent/Ladybower infrastructure. Managed to get a comment in about Derwent being used for practice by the Dambusters. Unfortunately, the Prof, an Irishman, was not impressed. Some people have no soul.
. Such is life . However, got the book. Quite an interesting read.Re comments about PC selection of woman pilot, understand from book that her selection was because of most multi-engine experience from group. Right man for the job, even if it is a woman?
Comely wench as well
.Other woman on crew apparently an ex-copper. Looked a mean 'un who would have no qualms about dropping bombs anywhere
.Slightly changing subject, my masters dissertation was about Derwent/Ladybower infrastructure. Managed to get a comment in about Derwent being used for practice by the Dambusters. Unfortunately, the Prof, an Irishman, was not impressed. Some people have no soul.
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Thanks, IFR and BritishEagle. I will try and order it, although it must be NTSC for us Yanks.
A funny story: I went to some of the local used bookshops here in LA to sell 10-12 paperbacks (mostly war novels), and finally got about $20 for them at a small place. While looking through their selections, I came across "books on tape", which had most of the popular current bestsellers available. Then, I saw an older, black and white, 2-tape set of THE DAMBUSTERS ! Book-on-tape read by the chap who starred as Guy Gibson in the original film. So far, I've listened to 1 side of 4, and its exceptional! Fancy me finding that exact title; I do own the paperback book, published by Bantam War Novels, but its in my storage unit somewhere, buried most likely.
Had no idea they planned a large "Victory" bomber to originally carry the bomb, as they thought the Lancs were too small.
A funny story: I went to some of the local used bookshops here in LA to sell 10-12 paperbacks (mostly war novels), and finally got about $20 for them at a small place. While looking through their selections, I came across "books on tape", which had most of the popular current bestsellers available. Then, I saw an older, black and white, 2-tape set of THE DAMBUSTERS ! Book-on-tape read by the chap who starred as Guy Gibson in the original film. So far, I've listened to 1 side of 4, and its exceptional! Fancy me finding that exact title; I do own the paperback book, published by Bantam War Novels, but its in my storage unit somewhere, buried most likely.
Had no idea they planned a large "Victory" bomber to originally carry the bomb, as they thought the Lancs were too small.
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Just been reading the book based on this TV programme. Very good. I think it concentrates much more on the history than the programme did. Worth looking into.
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The only surviving Lancaster in the UK is doing a fly past this Saturday 17th May at Brooklands museum .
This coincides with the opening of a new exhibition about the Dambusters.
I'd like to go but Mrs Words has me down for babysitting
Apologies if I am repeating a previous post - I did a quick scan but couldn't see it mentioned elsewhere
amofw
This coincides with the opening of a new exhibition about the Dambusters.
I'd like to go but Mrs Words has me down for babysitting
Apologies if I am repeating a previous post - I did a quick scan but couldn't see it mentioned elsewhere
amofw
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amanoffewwords - the Bomber is having quite a tour on Saturday, with flypasts elsewhere too including at RAF Scampton later in the afternoon. They're having a Dambusters Day there with tour of the base museum and a talk - but I think it's ticket only and they've all gone already.
I'm stuck with going to a mate's wedding so shall just have to get falling down drunk and toast their memory at some point.
Edit - Lanc's Saturday itinerary courtesy of 'fluffy' of the BBMF on another board:
Waddington 14:25
Eyebrook Res 14:45
Bletchley Park 15:00
Brands Hatch 15:30
Herne Bay 16:00
Weybridge 16:25
Scampton 17:15
Eyebrook Reservoir flypast looks to be a good one:
"The Lanc will come over Rutland water and exit at the western end leading it into the res from the north east ,it will then straighten, to go over the dam. The Lanc will be then followed the Spit & Hurri and then they should do a further 3 passes"
I'm stuck with going to a mate's wedding so shall just have to get falling down drunk and toast their memory at some point.
Edit - Lanc's Saturday itinerary courtesy of 'fluffy' of the BBMF on another board:
Waddington 14:25
Eyebrook Res 14:45
Bletchley Park 15:00
Brands Hatch 15:30
Herne Bay 16:00
Weybridge 16:25
Scampton 17:15
Eyebrook Reservoir flypast looks to be a good one:
"The Lanc will come over Rutland water and exit at the western end leading it into the res from the north east ,it will then straighten, to go over the dam. The Lanc will be then followed the Spit & Hurri and then they should do a further 3 passes"
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