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Looks like things have been busy while I away, almost caught up with the Mile thread.
Riley Dove. Yes AHAP did fly with the Rover engine, but only twice. Will look up the log books and reply in due course.
I must confess to all that while I was away in Florida I have been flirting with a much larger taildragger, with a big radial engine.
Hopefully a picture should appear below of me in said craft seeing what florida looks like inverted. This was my first time at aeros, could become addictive.
So why didn't it work ??
Riley Dove. Yes AHAP did fly with the Rover engine, but only twice. Will look up the log books and reply in due course.
I must confess to all that while I was away in Florida I have been flirting with a much larger taildragger, with a big radial engine.
Hopefully a picture should appear below of me in said craft seeing what florida looks like inverted. This was my first time at aeros, could become addictive.
So why didn't it work ??
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Oscar D aren't Harvards fun 
Have a try in a Stearman, lovely engine noise, open cockpit, lots of wings and cheaper than a Harvard I wish I could afford one 
Have a try in a Stearman, lovely engine noise, open cockpit, lots of wings and cheaper than a Harvard I wish I could afford one
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OD I was talking to a mutual fuel tank supplying friend and he told me you were possibly selling AP?
I'm considering swopping my Autocrat for his Aiglet if I like it. Anybody got any advice / comments about Aiglets?
I'm considering swopping my Autocrat for his Aiglet if I like it. Anybody got any advice / comments about Aiglets?
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The trick is to leave off everything after .jpg (including any spaces)
In this case I removed ?0.2698014858512734 and it worked.
PS sorry for taking so long to fix it
PPS the picture is the one posted by Oscar Deuce with the link above.
The trick is to leave off everything after .jpg (including any spaces)
In this case I removed ?0.2698014858512734 and it worked.
PS sorry for taking so long to fix it
PPS the picture is the one posted by Oscar Deuce with the link above.
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Aiglets Aren't they the aerobatic version of the Auster?
About 6 sq ft clipped off the wing and cleared for inverted spins
I'm having enough trouble learning to fly the ordinary one
About 6 sq ft clipped off the wing and cleared for inverted spins
I'm having enough trouble learning to fly the ordinary one
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I've discovered that they have 2' clipped out of each wing giving them a 32' span. Still only cleared to +4.5 / -3g as per the Autocrat though. I don't fancy inverted spins either 
but I would like to ba able to do the occasional loop and roll. Apparently this one has a fairly primitive inverted oil and fuel system......
but I would like to ba able to do the occasional loop and roll. Apparently this one has a fairly primitive inverted oil and fuel system......
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Windy I've always wondered whether I'd have the nerve to do loops in an aircraft with wooden spars dating from 1946. So far, because I don't have the aerobatic seats in my Autorcrat, I haven't tried it. I've had the wing inspection panels put in and the spar was deemed to be in excellent conditon at the time of the Star Annual last year. Steep turns and wingovers are all I've done so far though.
Have you done any of the approved aeros in yours? Do you know what the entry speeds for the loop and stall turn should be? I had one guy tell me that the recommended loop entry speed was the Vne
MOTF unfortunately I can't see your pic cos our new net nanny is all-seeing
Have you done any of the approved aeros in yours? Do you know what the entry speeds for the loop and stall turn should be? I had one guy tell me that the recommended loop entry speed was the Vne
MOTF unfortunately I can't see your pic cos our new net nanny is all-seeing
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LowNSlow & Windy M.
We've had a few Austers at the VAC do's in the past... In fact BEAH & AMTM are regular visitors (& members of the club).
Abingdon Fayre had a number of Austers visit in 2002 too.
Why not come to the VAC's Vintage & Classic day in September (19th) and we'll see how many we can get in...
I was lucky enough when a spacey (Air Cadet) to fly the Auster 6 ARHM around the circuit at Finmere...
(will confess to also having flown a circuit in a Stearman too! - but this was at Cranfield)
If either of you come to a VAC do (or Abingdon?) do come and say hello to myself... You shouldn't miss me... (the clue is in the name!)
We've had a few Austers at the VAC do's in the past... In fact BEAH & AMTM are regular visitors (& members of the club).
Abingdon Fayre had a number of Austers visit in 2002 too.
Why not come to the VAC's Vintage & Classic day in September (19th) and we'll see how many we can get in...
I was lucky enough when a spacey (Air Cadet) to fly the Auster 6 ARHM around the circuit at Finmere...
(will confess to also having flown a circuit in a Stearman too! - but this was at Cranfield)
If either of you come to a VAC do (or Abingdon?) do come and say hello to myself... You shouldn't miss me... (the clue is in the name!)
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I'll enquire about the speeds. So far I believe that apart from a few steep turns the only aero's that the group have done in our's are a spin for the annual.
However one thing that I have discovered is that the VNE varies as to the number of ribs in the Ailerons, at least on the J1 N. If you've got more than nine (I think) you've got the go faster version.
Not sure if ours has the aerobatic seats though, one of the things that we're checking on.
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We were at the VAC Daffodill last year and depending on servicability will probably do as many fly ins as we can manage.
I'll enquire about the speeds. So far I believe that apart from a few steep turns the only aero's that the group have done in our's are a spin for the annual.
However one thing that I have discovered is that the VNE varies as to the number of ribs in the Ailerons, at least on the J1 N. If you've got more than nine (I think) you've got the go faster version.
Not sure if ours has the aerobatic seats though, one of the things that we're checking on.
Orange Arm Waver
We were at the VAC Daffodill last year and depending on servicability will probably do as many fly ins as we can manage.
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Windy M I'll count my ribs when I get home. It's easy to see if you've got aerobatic seats, they are the ones with four straps, two of which come over the back of the seat. The " standard" ones have a lap & diagonal fixed belt like an old Morris Minor.
Orange Arm Waver I've been meaning to join the VAC since the chairman visited Rush Green in his Cessna 140 I'll do it for sure this year.
Orange Arm Waver I've been meaning to join the VAC since the chairman visited Rush Green in his Cessna 140
I'll do it for sure this year.
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Windy good luck if you are looking for genuine aerobatic seats, they are as reare as hen's teeth If Austers were permit aeroplanes then we could submit a mod to PFA Engineering and stand a reasonable chance of getting it passed. Don't fancy going down that route with the CAA though!
If Austers were permit aeroplanes then we could submit a mod to PFA Engineering and stand a reasonable chance of getting it passed. Don't fancy going down that route with the CAA though!
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LowNSlow,
Don't know about the rest of the group but I'm not feeling that brave I'll stick to a few steep turns now and then and maybe the occaisional gentle chandelle
Don't know about the rest of the group but I'm not feeling that brave I'll stick to a few steep turns now and then and maybe the occaisional gentle chandelle
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I am learning to fly an Aiglet Trainer (I have to keep telling myself it can't be that hard to land well after all it is only a Trainer ).
Anyway I have just checked the flight manual and it says that;
'' The aeroplane has been demonstrated to have safe handling characteristics in the following aerobatic manoeuvres''
Spins
Tight turns
Inside loops
Slow rolls (very slow I should imagine)
Stall turns
Half inside loop and roll out
Half roll and dive out
I think I will just concentrate on the bouncing for the moment.
Anyway I have just checked the flight manual and it says that;
'' The aeroplane has been demonstrated to have safe handling characteristics in the following aerobatic manoeuvres''
Spins
Tight turns
Inside loops
Slow rolls (very slow I should imagine)
Stall turns
Half inside loop and roll out
Half roll and dive out
I think I will just concentrate on the bouncing for the moment.
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Vick VG I've been told that the Aiglet Trainer is different to the other Austers when landing due to the wingspan being reduced by 4'. I find the Autocrat quite 'stiff legged' especially with new bungees and also VERY sensitive to tyre pressures. Too little and she takes forever to get off wet grass, to much and she bounces back and forth like a SWB Landrover when taxiing and like a kangaroo if you land a tad too fast or if you flop her on from 2' up.
I would imagine the Aiglet floats less than the AUtocrat due to the reduced wingspan so these bouncy tendencies would be worse!
I would imagine the Aiglet floats less than the AUtocrat due to the reduced wingspan so these bouncy tendencies would be worse!
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Ahh now then I pumped the tyres up before last weeks bouncing session so that might explain it (he says hopefully). Out of eleven landings I only managed to do one without bouncing!
I went mad with the Light Aero Spare's catalogue yesterday, and ordered a steerable Maule tailwheel. I have had a couple of taxing experiences where I have been a mere passenger as the Auster has decided it wants to go its own way despite applying everything available to the contrary. OK on an empty airfield but I would very nervous at a fly-in where space is tight.
As my instructor Mr Bell remarked last week ''an Auster is not that hard to fly, but it is hard to fly well ''.
Ahh now then I pumped the tyres up before last weeks bouncing session so that might explain it (he says hopefully). Out of eleven landings I only managed to do one without bouncing!
I went mad with the Light Aero Spare's catalogue yesterday, and ordered a steerable Maule tailwheel. I have had a couple of taxing experiences where I have been a mere passenger as the Auster has decided it wants to go its own way despite applying everything available to the contrary. OK on an empty airfield but I would very nervous at a fly-in where space is tight.
As my instructor Mr Bell remarked last week ''an Auster is not that hard to fly, but it is hard to fly well ''.
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Vick VG does your rudder have the control horn fitted to take the bungees or springs necessary to connect to the streerable tailwheel? If not I got a set from Ron Neal last year, he might have some more or be prepared to fabricate some to the original drawings. If you need to do this, I'll order some as well cos if I change the Autocrat for another Auster I'll want a steerable tailwheel again. Auster spares have original Auster steerable tailwheels. They work out around 600 squids if I remember rightly. How much is the Maule costing you?