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Old 14th Nov 2002, 11:38
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Whispers from the mid-east suggest that the Tyne-powered bird will ply the route OMSJ-OAKB...
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Old 14th Nov 2002, 13:24
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Walter Mitty Airlines (aka guvnor) may just Take-Off

Hi Folks,

Haven't seen it reported anywhere but the Shorts Belfast G-HLFT has arrived in PIK and did so yesterday.

I dont know if this has anything to do with the guvnor or not but if it has looks like we may have to eat humble pie on the aicraft side of things.

Anyone anything to add?????

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Old 14th Nov 2002, 13:35
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Well, if Lionair ever gets airborne, I'll eat the first large slice of pie together with my hat!

Seen the post

http://www.pprune.org/forums/showthr...ferrerid=13010
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Old 14th Nov 2002, 14:16
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If that is true, it is surely only a matter of time before that lovely old aircraft bites the dust.

Hacking into Afghanistan is hardly a good way of preserving the only flying example of this classic aeroplane.
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Old 14th Nov 2002, 14:32
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Hi Derek

I posted this last night when I saw the Belfast had left Southend, but my thread appears to have been deleted (do we get told why our threads get deleted on here, PPRuNe moderators???)

Apparently the Guv/SAS23 has been on Airwhiners saying that he was behind the posn flt to PIK, but I haven't heard anything else as to what it's doing there or who's involved with it.

Cheers

Ok I stand corrected! My previous thread wasn't deleted but has been amalgamated with a similar thread over on the Freight Dogs forum.
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Old 14th Nov 2002, 17:56
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Question

Just out of interest. What happened to the other Belfast's HL took on from the Raf.

Broken up or put out to grass ?

Any particular reason ? Engine / Airframe issues or just a lack of work for a unique type?
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Old 14th Nov 2002, 18:33
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Heavylift Belfast

I know there was a lot of discussion about the "new" airline supposed to be operating the Heavylift Belfast but it has now appeared at Prestwick. It sitting where it was reported to be heading - the Polar hangar.

Presumably some of what was said about it's potential operations are true.
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Old 14th Nov 2002, 19:31
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Yes Oscar you're probably correct it is either sitting in a grasspiece somewhere on a small airfield the size of SEN or a bit bigger, otherwise its doing the fire training aircraft or for cargo or military training or just simply being used to practice pushbacks, or its enjoying its days in the museum with lots othere old and unwanted but very rare aircraft. I hate to say but its probably doing the first one you said parked on a grass piece of land next to or in an airports ground somewhere. But wherever it is likelyhood of it still flying or ever flying again are very limited. I hope i might answered your querey, also can please give me its registration so i can pass it on to a friend and i can tell you exacly what its doing O.K. Thanks.
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Old 14th Nov 2002, 19:43
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Perhaps a simple phone call to Prestwick to find out who owns it would be in order? Somehow I doubt a Mr. R is involved in any way except his fevered imagination.
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Old 14th Nov 2002, 20:12
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Don't know who owns it but the crew who flew it from Southend said it would be at Preswick for a while and was then going to Sydney.
It is also rumoured that the same people have purchased the other Belfast in storage at Southend ( since Dec 2000) and has been used as a christmas tree to keep No 1 flying.

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Old 14th Nov 2002, 22:19
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I just don’t know why a posting on this forum about the movement of the Belfast was inexplicably removed by a moderator without so much as a link, only to mysteriously appear on the Freight dogs forum and dumped as a follow on to an old thread. Not trying to lose it by any chance are we?

Surely after all that was said about NDR that any movement of the Belfast is worthy of a thread on Reporting Points. Anyways, here is the link:-

http://www.pprune.org/forums/showthr...ferrerid=13010

Will the Belfast fly for Lionair? The taste of humble pie and hats aint nice!
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Old 15th Nov 2002, 08:58
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Hi Doug,

Copious amounts KY used on that one!!!! still owed salvage money from rescuing the tech docs though. Pigs primed and ready to go!!

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Old 15th Nov 2002, 09:17
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I have it on good authority that it will shortly be departing downunder, the intention being to use it from Melbourne to Auckland. Apparantly it is at PIK for a repaint first.

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Old 15th Nov 2002, 10:17
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Exclamation Robertson has NOTHING to do with the ex-HeavyLift Belfast

I can confirm that Neil D Robertson has ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to do with the aquisition of the former HeavyLift Belfast. It has been purchased by South Pacific Air and will be operated in the Pacific Rim. Key personnel including the forimer Chief Pilot have been employed and as soon as the AOC has been arranged (NOT by Robertson) the aircraft will depart for the southern hemisphere.

Any claims by Robertson to be involved with this project are nothing but lies, typical of his continuing behaviour. His modus operandi of phoning the receiver to inquire about the a/c is followed as usual by his claims that the new owners are somehow strategic partners of his. He has been shown to use other peoples company names and logos without regard to the reality of the situation.
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Old 15th Nov 2002, 19:28
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NDR's LionAir website is no more. Looks like he has either been closed down or shut it down himself, but given the size of his ego I would say the latter is highly unlikely.
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Old 15th Nov 2002, 19:40
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Sorry to disappoint you, NDR’s site was flylionair.com which is still in action. I think "someone else" registered lionair.co.uk
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Old 15th Nov 2002, 21:10
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Question Whose register?

Assuming the Belfast does make it to Australia, (which may only be a staging post?), I shall be interested to see which register it goes on. Being almost certainly a new type won't there have to be a lot of preparation to satisfy the registering aviation authority?

If you introduce a new type to the UK, for example, unless previous information is accepted at face value, it will cost a packet and takes considerable time.

Can a Belfast lift a main battle tank and fly it a reasonable distance? - maybe it could go on someones military register?
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Old 15th Nov 2002, 22:27
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I have to agree with Danny on this one. NDR is such an accomplished liar and deceiver, he manages to convince most that black is white. His usual tactic, and this can be verified on the other website is that a part truth = total truth.

In this instance, he stated that the Belfast would position SEN to PIK for his operation. It transpires that the old bird has just done that. It positioned but no thanks or because of him. This is his evidence; that because he told us that would happen, everything else that he said must also therefore be true. So there! We must all now eat our hats!!

He even states that he is going to earn buckets now that this has happened as he said it would, my version of his words, and has vindicated himself in everything he has always said.

LMAO NDR. Pigs might fly (sorry Danny, no inuendo intended)
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Old 16th Nov 2002, 01:55
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see which register it goes on

My guess would be a P4- reggie. Nice folks will register anything - aviation equivalent of Liberia. No wait, they'd do it too
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Old 16th Nov 2002, 08:26
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dunno If Heavy had more

G-OHCA Heavylift Cargo Broken up at Southend, UK between 12-21feb94
G-HLFT Heavylift Cargo Airlines Ferried AMS- Southend 29may99
G-BFYU Heavylift Cargo Airlines Wfu 27jun92, tt 22434, tl 9363 Noted derelict at Southend aug93 & dec98 Parts missing
G-BEPS Heavylift Cargo Airlines fate?
G-BEPE Heavylift Cargo Airlines CofA expired 11mar85, Broken up at Southend, UK between 21-25feb94
G-BEPL Rolls Broken up at Hucknall, UK during 1979

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