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Old 23rd May 2024, 11:31
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Originally Posted by Herod
Ref the Vimy (Sorry thread digression), the REAL replica with Eagle engines, was built and flown in 1969 for the 50th of Alcock and Brown. Yes, the photo chase required an aircraft with a low stall speed. Cue one Wessex out of Odiham. Sadly, I didn't have my camera with me, and it was before the days of mobile phones. That Vimy is now stored in the RAF Museum facility at Stafford.
The first replica of 1969 caught fire at Brooklands and had to be almost totally re-built, I don't think it ever flew again.
I saw the next one on several occasions and was standing behind Gerry Street (controller) at Farnborough when he ad-libbed 'thats one small step for a 747 and one giant leap for a Vickers Vimy' at the beginning of it's RTW trip.
Next visit there was such a strong crosswind that it landed literally across the runway on an intersection.
Last time I saw it was when it visited Fairoaks overnight just prior to it being taken into Brooklands on its final flight.
The Skyvan accompanying it over Dunsfold in 2009 looks like it has a deflector fitted to the tailplane for parachute dropping so could it have been one of the aircraft from Brize? They are civil registered although they operate under a military callsign.
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Chevvron; I agree with you on that, although I thought the fire was at Barton (?). As I said, i flew in formation with it back in '69. Next time I saw it was at Hendon, rebuilt as a non-flyer. The last time was at Stafford. Dismantled, but safely stored.
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Chevvron; I agree with you on that, although I thought the fire was at Barton (?). As I said, i flew in formation with it back in '69. Next time I saw it was at Hendon, rebuilt as a non-flyer. The last time was at Stafford. Dismantled, but safely stored.
I was wrong, the fire was at Ringway not Barton or Brooklands..
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Thanks Chevvron, seems we were both wrong. Now back to the thread. Apologies for drift.
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Originally Posted by chevvron
Aer Turas used to operate racehorse flights to Fairoaks (for Kempton, Sandown, Epsom or Ascot) and could have ended up at Heathrow on a wx div.
One day at Farnborough shortly after EFW moved out to Boscombe, Shorts company hack came in for some reason shortly before we closed for the day; quick turnaround then off again.
Next morning on airfield inspection, I found a piece of perspex with rounded off corners on the runway. It looked roughly the size/shape of a Skyvan window so we phoned Shorts and they checked; yes there was a hole in the fuselage where there should have been a window. Must've made a helluva noise but nobody noticed.
Aer Turas never had Skyvans, but Shannon Executive Aviation had a couple of examples.
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Originally Posted by treadigraph
Was it a 3-60, a 7-20 or a 10-80 degree spin?
We went round about three times until my chuckling TRE saved me any further embarrassment. The Shed spins beautifully though......it does a real textbook spin.

Now that WAS a "startle" moment !
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Old 24th May 2024, 09:58
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Originally Posted by Liffy 1M
Aer Turas never had Skyvans, but Shannon Executive Aviation had a couple of examples.
Now you mention it, I do recall EI-BNN coinciding with me several times. Might it have dropped a few meat bombs at the IAC open day at Baldonnell in 1986 I wonder? I see it was last heard of stored at Nairobi Wilson about 12 years ago sporting a Swazi registration.
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In the early days, before I began to climb the 'greasy pole', I flew on the Skyvan in Scotland and then for two years in the Middle East, in those days its nick name was, "The Whispering Nissen Hut". Great for the job it was built for and a more roomy flight deck than a B737!
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Originally Posted by parabellum
In the early days, before I began to climb the 'greasy pole', I flew on the Skyvan in Scotland and then for two years in the Middle East, in those days its nick name was, "The Whispering Nissen Hut". Great for the job it was built for and a more roomy flight deck than a B737!
And Captain and F/O each had separate doors to the flight deck.
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And Captain and F/O each had separate doors to the flight deck.
Funny, for some reason that comment immediately brought to mind the Airfix Skyvan kit - never built it but a school mate did; The cockpit rear wall appears to be suitably bifurcated but not modelled with doors! Olympic Airways and Oman AF decals, cover art by the very recently late Roy Cross.
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Thanks for all the great stories. Keep them coming!

It seems to me that merely getting in and out of a Skyvan required the routine use of a ladder, since the external cockpit doors don't appear to have any access footholds and the cargo deck with the rear door open was more than 2 feet off the ground. Also, what was the normal way of getting to the refuelling point on the top of the fuselage?

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Thanks for all the great stories. Keep them coming!
. Also, what was the normal way of getting to the refuelling point on the top of the fuselage?.

John
At Fairoaks they used a ladder.
On one occasion, both the re-fueller and the pilot climbed up to re-fuel, then noticed the ladder had fallen down.
It took about half an hour before somebody noticed them shouting and waving to attract their attention.
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Originally Posted by aeroflight
It seems to me that merely getting in and out of a Skyvan required the routine use of a ladder, since the external cockpit doors don't appear to have any access footholds
There's a step and a grab handle to help to pilots get up to the cockpit door.
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When hand flying, (I don't remember ours having auto-pilots), you could tell when the CC was approaching with the coffee, by the very subtle change in pitch - you would have to gradually apply gentle back pressure to the yoke to stay level, and say to the Captain; "ah, here comes the coffee". Cap would say, "eh, what?", at which point the cockpit door would slide open and she would say "hello boys, here's your coffee !".
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I joined Field Aircraft Services in 1973 just in time to work on the completion of 6 Skyvans for the Singapore Govt. Three aircraft were for general transport use and three were equipped for search and rescue with a dedicated navigator's station in the freight bay. The avionic installation comprised dual Nav/Comm systems from the King Silver Crown suite supplemented with a Sunair HF Tx/Rx, a Collins UHF Tx/Rx and a Plessey IFF/SSR transponder. In addition, the search and rescue aircraft included a Decca Doppler Radar with a moving map display at the navigator's station. The experience Fields gained from this contract stood them in good stead for their later contract with BAe when they became the completion centre for Jetstream aircraft in the 1980s.
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