Royal Navy Devon in Oregon Desert?
Dredging my memory banks, I attended school close to KLGA to get my A&P licenses. Lunch times, you could walk across highway bridge and get right on ramp in Marine Terminal area. Pan Am had the big seaplane hangar and a row of smaller hangars where Pan Am supported B-18, B-23 and DC-3 exec aircraft. Saw my first Dove there but it had fixed gear. Nose gear had a truly artistic fairing over it. A very pretty aircraft.
Going back to early post of flying in a Riley modded Heron, it was indeed Prinair operated. Good ride and those overhead escape hatches seemed like a good idea with all that water below enroute.
Going back to early post of flying in a Riley modded Heron, it was indeed Prinair operated. Good ride and those overhead escape hatches seemed like a good idea with all that water below enroute.
Dredging my memory banks, I attended school close to KLGA to get my A&P licenses. Lunch times, you could walk across highway bridge and get right on ramp in Marine Terminal area. Pan Am had the big seaplane hangar and a row of smaller hangars where Pan Am supported B-18, B-23 and DC-3 exec aircraft. Saw my first Dove there but it had fixed gear. Nose gear had a truly artistic fairing over it. A very pretty aircraft.
Going back to early post of flying in a Riley modded Heron, it was indeed Prinair operated. Good ride and those overhead escape hatches seemed like a good idea with all that water below enroute.
Going back to early post of flying in a Riley modded Heron, it was indeed Prinair operated. Good ride and those overhead escape hatches seemed like a good idea with all that water below enroute.
Are you sure you mean Dove, and not Heron ?
In fact all three u/c legs were 'down and welded' on the 50 or so Mk1 Herons built
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Back in the '70s, Doves belonging to the Civil Aviation Flying Unit (CAFU) at Stansted were detached to Hurn Airport to provide live traning for trainee Air Traffic Controllers. We were split into groups of 3 per session, one would fly RHS (we all had PPLs) and the other two along with an ATC instructor would go to the control tower where, from our own control position, we would interleave with the Barons of the Hamble based College of Air Training, the ATCOs carrying out SRAs and other exercises.
That's it. XM296. Recall it had a green cheatline rather than blue, confirmed by an AB pic. My dusty old log says I saw it at Biggin Hill in 1983...
It then went to the US as N82D and XR442/G-HRON was used as spares to keep it airworthy with the Albany Aero Club. That's now in Bolivia... or was...
It then went to the US as N82D and XR442/G-HRON was used as spares to keep it airworthy with the Albany Aero Club. That's now in Bolivia... or was...
chevvron, Did one have to have a PPL to sit RHS on the CAFU Doves? I occasionally flew RHS and did have a PPL but I never knew that it was required. They used to take ATC cadets from a local squadrons but maybe they had to sit in the back. Most of my flying at that point was non-radio so I did it to soak up some experience of procedures.
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Apologies for the thread drift, but mention of the Herons takes me back to my ATCO training. Was tasked with doing a live 1/2 mile SRA. On the debrief my (autocratic) instructor picked me up on some supplementary phraseology that I used and which he took exception to. I asked the aircraft if he was a Heron 1 or Heron 2, to which the response was "Heron 2". The subsequent approach accordingly resulted in my passing the instruction "check wheels" (which at the time was used for "check gear"). The issue was subsequently brought up at the de-brief "what's all this about Heron 1 or Heron 2?", to which I politely pointed out that if it was a Heron 1 then I could omit the gear check!
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chevvron, Did one have to have a PPL to sit RHS on the CAFU Doves? I occasionally flew RHS and did have a PPL but I never knew that it was required. They used to take ATC cadets from a local squadrons but maybe they had to sit in the back. Most of my flying at that point was non-radio so I did it to soak up some experience of procedures.
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Air Gregory Twin Comanches were used at Hurn for the SRA training around 1967/8. I was in 130 Bournemouth squadron ATC and went to the airport several times to get an air experience flight but was not senior enough so missed out. I thought the CAFU doves were before this but the memory may be failing.
chevvron, Did one have to have a PPL to sit RHS on the CAFU Doves? I occasionally flew RHS and did have a PPL but I never knew that it was required. They used to take ATC cadets from a local squadrons but maybe they had to sit in the back. Most of my flying at that point was non-radio so I did it to soak up some experience of procedures.
Executive transport for the Broken Hill Propriety Limited mining and ship building company, operated by a company off shoot "Associated Airlines", bit of a misnomer as it was purely for the private transport of company personnel. Replaced two Lockheed 12's, enjoyed riding both types very much as a teenager.
Heron G-ANXA was later named "Sister Jean Kennedy" in memory of the nurse who died in the accident along with the pilots (you can just make it out in that B&W photo), and the same name was later worn by a Loganair Islander.
CAFU Doves
chevvron, Did one have to have a PPL to sit RHS on the CAFU Doves? I occasionally flew RHS and did have a PPL but I never knew that it was required. They used to take ATC cadets from a local squadrons but maybe they had to sit in the back. Most of my flying at that point was non-radio so I did it to soak up some experience of procedures.
You could even fly them with a PPL from the LHS. Circa 1962, the night section of the CPL general flying test was conducted at Stansted, flying from the LHS, with just a few notes provided. A couple of circuits and landings, and one go around from what I remember.
After that I had the joy of flying Fairey's three Doves throughout the 60s, including a post contract winter ferry home from South America to UK. The aircraft was a joy to fly, quiet and comfortable