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Old 14th Aug 2023, 09:21
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Here you go, have a matching PTR175…
Actually it's rather more than a PTR175 - it's a PTR1751WWH which includes the frequency hopping HaveQuick system. Useless without the control panel though.
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Originally Posted by Jhieminga
Just curious but which shop are we talking about? I just spent a few days near Lincoln and may have missed a major attraction… although me credit card may hold a different opinion of course.
As you go up the hill on the right. I forget what it's called but has a window festooned with aircraft parts among other things.
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Actually it's rather more than a PTR175 - it's a PTR1751WWH which includes the frequency hopping HaveQuick system. Useless without the control panel though.
I wouldn’t give it house room. No point in having u/s electronics sitting on your bedroom shelf .
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J. Birkett owned the shop but sadly passed away last year at the age of 93.

I do not know whether the shop is still open.
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Originally Posted by BEagle
J. Birkett owned the shop but sadly passed away last year at the age of 93.

I do not know whether the shop is still open.
Still open.
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I wouldn’t give it house room. No point in having u/s electronics sitting on your bedroom shelf .

that's what shelves are for , shirley?
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Originally Posted by ShyTorque
Nutty,

I thought about donating my Decometer to Newark Air Museum when I was informed that they had obtained a Puma. I went down to see it and realised it would be pointless in view of the fact that it didn’t even have an instrument panel! It’s little more than a bare shell.
Shy, It has come on leaps and bounds and the cockpit is now complete, they have a spare fuselage as well. judging by the boxes they may have rotor blades, they even have authentic bodge tape on the nose panel

You can see it here and watch the film, it will eventually have someone who flew them doing a cockpit walk around.





https://www.flickr.com/photos/53922167@N05/]Martin Laycock

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Old 14th Aug 2023, 17:18
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In Germany the Scouts were in pounds, the Gazelles in kilograms and the bowsers delivered in gallons or litres.
What could possibly go wrong!
Try this. Fuel planning was in kg, fuel delivered in litres, main tank gauges in Imp gallons, aux tank gauges in US gallons. In the days before electronic calculators !!
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You can see it here and watch the film, it will eventually have someone who flew them doing a cockpit walk around.
I last flew XW208 in March 1991, in NI. With the infamous “Air Jair” Smith. I’m not qualified to do a walk round video with only three tours and two and a half thousand hours on type. My Decometer wouldn’t fit that airframe as it had been upgraded with SuperTans.

But maybe I’ll visit it for old times sake.
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Just curious but which shop are we talking about? I just spent a few days near Lincoln and may have missed a major attraction… although me credit card may hold a different opinion of course.
At the bottom of Steep Hill
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Originally Posted by munnst
Thank you for the replies. All very interesting.
Is there any way to determine that said part came from said aircraft? At all possible to determine if it actually came from an aircraft and not a spare, off a boat etc?
I have a Vulcan fuel gauge. It has `bay` written on it so I assume it was used in the servicing bay for calibration and not necessarily from an actual aircraft?
The part number will help,as an example Puma helicopter parts tended to start with 526 MM and Wessex helicopters 28 WX

check these lists

https://www.key.aero/forum/historic-...t-part-numbers
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XW222

First flew 222 Nov 82 and last Jan 92.

It now resides in the superb Ulster Aviation Society collection at Maze, Long Kesh where I am a tour guide.

It is pretty well complete, just missing a PTR 175 and a decometer……

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The details on the back of the gauge are;
SMITHS: FUEL CONTENTS GAUGE
CODE: LK 86
SER NO. B1 -26804
MOD NO. 01 02
and a sticker on the side with 6A 6629 written on it
The rear has 12 screws, several with a wire cut off and marked a-p.

The details for the nav box are;
MK 8A RX CONTROL PANEL
TYPE 918 SER NO 285 WR 630
DECCA NAVIGATOR CO LTD
MADE IN ENGLAND

HAND WRITTEN ON THE DEVICE 5826 99-945-0478
The reverse has what appears to be an RS232 connector of some sort.

btw are these things safe to open. Any nasties like radium, asbestos? I'm keen to see if I can get the nav box lamps to work for a model I'm building.

Any confirmation what aircraft these bits came from would be interesting.

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The Decca Mk 8A was an airborne receiver unit and the control unit was Type 918. The Mk 8 and 8A were fitted to both civil and military aircraft. I was at RRE Pershore 1966 to 1970 and worked with Decca Navigator Type 990 known in the RAF as the Mk 1(Air) which was I understand based on the Mk 9 system with enhancements. It was installed on a number of Canberras and the Varsity aircraft operated by the RRE. When I left in 1970 we had installed a couple of Decca Mk 15 systems on Canberras.

As I recall there are no "nasties" inside to be aware of if you want to open them up. Typical of the time you will will find capacitors, resistors lots of relays, valves, crystals and maybe the odd transistor. The following link to a historical Decca site may be of interest as it refers to some of the aircraft types that used Decca Navigator.

Decca Navigator - Airborne Receivers and Indicators (jproc.ca)
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That's very interesting thanks. So the Mk8 was fitted to some Valiants. Unlikely mine was but it's representative so will go nicely with my model.

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Originally Posted by ItsonlyMeagain
First flew 222 Nov 82 and last Jan 92.

It now resides in the superb Ulster Aviation Society collection at Maze, Long Kesh where I am a tour guide.

It is pretty well complete, just missing a PTR 175 and a decometer……

Me
Very good!

Good old “Trembling two”.
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Originally Posted by Jhieminga
Just curious but which shop are we talking about? I just spent a few days near Lincoln and may have missed a major attraction… although me credit card may hold a different opinion of course.
Yes others have got it;, down the very steep hill from the Cathedral, don't know the name of the shop, hill, or compass direction, but I could walk you there. A small shop stacked high with this sort of thing.

Just looked at a map. Yes Steep Hill; runs South from near the West door of the Cathedral.
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Next to a very nice model shop. There is also an interesting antique shop that often has some militaria. A book shop and a couple of nice pubs. Be more Kate Bush.
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Decca Galore

At the RAE Farnborough , early sixties we had Decca in the Varsity, two Hastings and for a short time in Comet 2 XN453, (Decca in the cockpit and Decca Loran and Litton Omega down the back with the boffins).
In general the Decca worked quite well.
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