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Single Engine Turboprop Military Aircraft

Old 10th May 2022, 07:10
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Single Engine Turboprop Military Aircraft

One for the PPRuNe experts.

A single engine turboprop monoplane taildragger, possibily French designed, and built in the 1950's?.

It may have started life with an inline piston engine, then re-engineered with a turbine engine later in the mid 1960's.

I think it may have been used by the Swiss airforce for target towing.

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Old 10th May 2022, 07:15
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Farner Werke C-3605

The F+W C-3605, nicknamed Schlepp ("Tug") or "Alpine Anteater", was a target towing aircraft operated by the Swiss Air Force from 1971–1987. The aircraft was developed during the latter half of the 1960s by the Swiss Federal Construction Works (Eidgenoessische Konstruktionswerkstaette) (EKW), renamed Farner Werke (F+W) in 1972, as a conversion of the existing C-3603 ground attack/target towing aircraft. Following a successful prototype conversion in 1968, 23 aircraft were converted between 1971–1973 with 2 still flying in private hands.
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The Morane-Saulnier MS 1500 Epervier fits the bill but not sure if it was ever used by the Swiss


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Thanks SWBKCB, greatly appreciated for that info.
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Old 10th May 2022, 08:47
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Here is a Schlepp at Lausanne in 2011.
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Originally Posted by Asturias56 View Post
The Morane-Saulnier MS 1500 Epervier fits the bill but not sure if it was ever used by the Swiss
That was a real stretch of the imagination: the Epervier didn't start life with an inline piston engine; wasn't used by the Swiss and wasn't a target tug.

Pilatus Porter fit the remit a bit better, even though it's not.
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Originally Posted by Pypard View Post
That was a real stretch of the imagination: the Epervier didn't start life with an inline piston engine; wasn't used by the Swiss and wasn't a target tug.

Pilatus Porter fit the remit a bit better, even though it's not.
I'd never heard of it, so have learned something today!
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Old 10th May 2022, 15:59
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There is one at Wickenby. Photo is not mine but is copyrighted to Kevin Mape.
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Hmmm........you would want to be very careful when getting the tail up on take-off; the blades might have the tips cut off but they're still quite long.
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Do I recall one taxying into the back of a parked JetRanger at Duxford? (Yes, I know a Spitfire did the same thing!)

Don't think I've ever actually seen one...
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Originally Posted by Pypard View Post
Pilatus Porter fit the remit a bit better, even though it's not.
The Pilatus (Turbo)-Porter was my first guess, having completely forgotten about the Schlepp.
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It would also appear that all 24 aircraft (all converted from piston-engined C-3603's) survive. That must be some kind of record if correct.
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Originally Posted by Pypard View Post
It would also appear that all 24 aircraft (all converted from piston-engined C-3603's) survive. That must be some kind of record if correct.
The Swiss AF wrote one off in 1983 after it hit first a bird and then a power line.
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Often see birds sitting on powerlines...
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There's a C-3604 that's back to airworthy status courtesy of a 500 series Merlin: https://www.scramble.nl/military-new...t-of-rare-bird
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My recollection is that these were referred to as EKW C-3605; is "F+W" (F&W?) the same thing?
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Originally Posted by Pypard View Post
My recollection is that these were referred to as EKW C-3605; is "F+W" (F&W?) the same thing?
EKW built the original piston aircraft, the same company rebadged as F+W did the turbine conversions...
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Did they have a camera under the nose so the pilot could see what was ahead?
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One wonders whether the designer had, erm, esteem issues in the trouser department.

Perhaps that's just me.
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