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Old 3rd Apr 2020, 09:12
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That must be the Me262 with propeller fitted.

At the time the jet engines were not ready so for airframe testing a Jumo 210 engine was fitted.
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Old 3rd Apr 2020, 13:06
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I think Dook's right on that one.
From Wiki "Test flights began on 18 April 1941, with the Me 262 V1 example, bearing its Stammkennzeichen radio code letters of PC+UA, but since its intended BMW 003turbojets were not ready for fitting, a conventional Junkers Jumo 210 engine was mounted in the V1 prototype's nose, driving a propeller, to test the Me 262 V1 airframe.[27] When the BMW 003 engines were installed, the Jumo was retained for safety, which proved wise as both 003s failed during the first flight and the pilot had to land using the nose-mounted engine alone"
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Old 3rd Apr 2020, 18:02
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I know this is a model, but I suspect it's a model of a real aircraft.
Any ideas??!



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Old 3rd Apr 2020, 18:34
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Junkers Ju352 (Herkules).
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Old 3rd Apr 2020, 19:10
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dook - Thank you! Put me out of my mysery...!

Looks like it's a testbed for a differnt (lighter!) engine...

Update: It's a Ju 252...

And a video of the model flying...

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Old 3rd Apr 2020, 19:16
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Yes, the original challenge was the Me262 prototype when they did not trust the jet engines.
I did not know anything about this until stumbling across this in a video recently.
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Old 3rd Apr 2020, 19:50
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Thank you TD.


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Old 4th Apr 2020, 19:54
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Well 24 hours no takers. I say it is Capt R H Stocken's glider No 27 taking part in the Daily Mail Glider Compeition in 1922 at Itford Hill East Sussex.
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Old 5th Apr 2020, 16:18
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Now that MReyn has given the game away is anyone going to name the aircraft ?
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Old 5th Apr 2020, 17:54
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I wonder if the good captain had French connections and wanted Airdisco to name it either Fi-fi or Pi-pi, rather than the rather latinised spelling?
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Old 5th Apr 2020, 18:01
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I think he did.

Your Thread.
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Old 5th Apr 2020, 18:46
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Originally Posted by dook View Post
Now that MReyn has given the game away is anyone going to name the aircraft ?
It was not my intention to give the game away. I found the photograph of Capt R H Stocken's glider at the Daily Mail Glider Competition at Itford Hill and in the photograph it was numbered 27 there was no reference to the craft's name. If that was not what you were looking for then I would have expected you to say that my answer was not what you were looking for and requested the aircraft's name.. .
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Old 5th Apr 2020, 18:57
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Well, the title of this thread is Name that Flying Machine.

The name of the aircraft was Aircraft Disposal Company Monoplane Phi-Phi.

I would have accepted Ph-Phi.
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Old 5th Apr 2020, 19:03
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Old 5th Apr 2020, 19:11
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My contribution was peripheral. Mreyn24050 identified the glider. As far as I'm concerned, he has control.
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Old 5th Apr 2020, 19:19
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Your prerogative.

MReyn has the helm.
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Old 6th Apr 2020, 09:02
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Originally Posted by fauteuil volant View Post
My contribution was peripheral. Mreyn24050 identified the glider. As far as I'm concerned, he has control.
Thank you fauteuil volant but dook is correct the name of the game is "Name that Flying Machine" therefore the honour id yours.
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Old 6th Apr 2020, 09:53
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Very well. In the spirit of the preceding challenge and in order to move on without acrimony, what I would like to be told are the identities of the machines from which that illustrated below emanated and, for bonus points, how much it cost to construct it!




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Old 6th Apr 2020, 15:41
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1922 Brokker glider by Alec Gray and W. J. Buchanan.

It combined the wing of a Fokker D.VII with an engineless Bristol F.2 Fighter fuselage.

Total cost 18/6 or 92.5 p.

Did you find that whilst searching for mine ?
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Old 6th Apr 2020, 17:47
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Correct on all counts! Back to you, sir.

The constituent parts of the 18/6 outlay were:

5/- fuselage
5/- wing
8/6 fittings, dope, etc..

Those were the days when you could make yourself an aeroplane for less than a quid!

And in response to your question, the answer is no. The information came from 'The Story of Gliding' by Ann Welch - which has been in my library for more decades than I care to recollect - and my own research, which appears on another forum, concerning the Itford competition (q.v. http://sussexhistoryforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=2277.15). If it interests anyone, there is a good deal on that forum concerning early gliding in Sussex and the county's pre-war gliding clubs.
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