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Old 5th April 2020 | 18:57
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Well, the title of this thread is Name that Flying Machine.

The name of the aircraft was Aircraft Disposal Company Monoplane Phi-Phi.

I would have accepted Ph-Phi.
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Old 5th April 2020 | 19:03
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Old 5th April 2020 | 19:11
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My contribution was peripheral. Mreyn24050 identified the glider. As far as I'm concerned, he has control.
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Old 5th April 2020 | 19:19
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Your prerogative.

MReyn has the helm.
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Old 6th April 2020 | 09:02
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Originally Posted by fauteuil volant
My contribution was peripheral. Mreyn24050 identified the glider. As far as I'm concerned, he has control.
Thank you fauteuil volant but dook is correct the name of the game is "Name that Flying Machine" therefore the honour id yours.
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Old 6th April 2020 | 09:53
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Very well. In the spirit of the preceding challenge and in order to move on without acrimony, what I would like to be told are the identities of the machines from which that illustrated below emanated and, for bonus points, how much it cost to construct it!




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Old 6th April 2020 | 15:41
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1922 Brokker glider by Alec Gray and W. J. Buchanan.

It combined the wing of a Fokker D.VII with an engineless Bristol F.2 Fighter fuselage.

Total cost 18/6 or 92.5 p.

Did you find that whilst searching for mine ?
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Old 6th April 2020 | 17:47
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Correct on all counts! Back to you, sir.

The constituent parts of the 18/6 outlay were:

5/- fuselage
5/- wing
8/6 fittings, dope, etc..

Those were the days when you could make yourself an aeroplane for less than a quid!

And in response to your question, the answer is no. The information came from 'The Story of Gliding' by Ann Welch - which has been in my library for more decades than I care to recollect - and my own research, which appears on another forum, concerning the Itford competition (q.v. http://sussexhistoryforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=2277.15). If it interests anyone, there is a good deal on that forum concerning early gliding in Sussex and the county's pre-war gliding clubs.
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Old 6th April 2020 | 18:21
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Thank you FV.

I don't wish this to be a two horse race so I invite OH.
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Old 6th April 2020 | 20:29
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Have a bash at this...



I reckon the pilot might be recognisable!
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Old 6th April 2020 | 20:58
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Reminiscent of the Practavia Sprite but the front is wrong.
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Old 6th April 2020 | 22:21
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Warm - not the final form of this US one-off.
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Old 7th April 2020 | 00:03
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Those years of reading Flying have paid off! I recognized it immediately - Pete Garrison's Melmoth. Do I get extra marks for naming the pilot?



Treaders' photo is of the early version, when it had a conventional stabilizer and an aluminium turtle-deck.

Melmoth met a sorry end and Pete had a lucky escape at Orange County Airport:

The career of Melmoth 1 ended, after nine years and 2,000 hours, at what is now John Wayne Airport in Orange County. I was holding short of the right runway waiting for takeoff clearance when a Cessna landing on the left went out of control and plowed through me. Both planes were totaled, but no one was hurt.
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Old 7th April 2020 | 02:06
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Originally Posted by fauteuil volant
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my own research, which appears on another forum, concerning the Itford competition (q.v. http://sussexhistoryforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=2277.15). If it interests anyone, there is a good deal on that forum concerning early gliding in Sussex and the county's pre-war gliding clubs.
Alas, when I click that link I get 403 Forbidden, as also when I try to sneak up on the site by different routes. Windows 10, Firefox, accessing from NZ. Doesn't work with Chrome, either.
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Old 7th April 2020 | 02:58
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Accessing the Sussexhistoryforum site no problem, here, also in NZ.
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Old 7th April 2020 | 06:43
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Originally Posted by India Four Two
Those years of reading Flying have paid off! I recognized it immediately - Pete Garrison's Melmoth. Do I get extra marks for naming the pilot?

Treaders' photo is of the early version, when it had a conventional stabilizer and an aluminium turtle-deck.

Melmoth met a sorry end and Pete had a lucky escape at Orange County Airport:
Extra marks I42 - it is indeed Peter Garrison's Melmoth N2MU, designed around the Practavia Sprite with which he was involved when working for Pilot in the UK.

In 1975 when I was already quite smitten with small aeroplanes and pretty good at recognising most types, a T-tailed, tip-tanked object went zotting across the small patch of sky visible from our sitting room window - nothing in the books like it. A pic of it at Biggin Hill appeared in Air Pictorial later on, ahhhhh!

Garrison bought it over the Atlantic non-stop I think as long distance flying was its goal and he and his wife had some longer adventures across and around the Pacific. James Gilbert and, I think, Manx Kelly had a go at Booker. Following the accident in 1982 Garrison was already thinking about Melmoth II, a redesigned and much improved version of the concept which has been flying for some time and with which he is still tinkering.

You have control!
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Old 7th April 2020 | 07:20
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Funnily enough, Melmouth came up in conversation the other day. I too spotted it right off. Garrison was asked about the best clothes to wear for long distance flying. He said probably a skirt, except for stepping down on arrival..
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Old 7th April 2020 | 08:04
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Alas, when I click that link I get 403 Forbidden, as also when I try to sneak up on the site by different routes. Windows 10, Firefox, accessing from NZ. Doesn't work with Chrome, either.
Sorry, FP. I can't explain that. I have no problems using firefox and chrome - but I'm only acessing it from France, rather than the other side of the world!
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Old 7th April 2020 | 09:24
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I can access the sussexhistory forum but get messages saying there are images which I cannot access or download.
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Old 7th April 2020 | 12:05
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Originally Posted by dook
I can access the sussexhistory forum but get messages saying there are images which I cannot access or download.
You have to be a registered user to access attachments to posts. The reason for this is that it goes some way to obstructing those who want to reap a harvest but don't want to sow any seed!

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