Name that Flying Machine
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Very well. In the spirit of the preceding challenge and in order to move on without acrimony, what I would like to be told are the identities of the machines from which that illustrated below emanated and, for bonus points, how much it cost to construct it!




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1922 Brokker glider by Alec Gray and W. J. Buchanan.
It combined the wing of a Fokker D.VII with an engineless Bristol F.2 Fighter fuselage.
Total cost 18/6 or 92.5 p.
Did you find that whilst searching for mine ?
It combined the wing of a Fokker D.VII with an engineless Bristol F.2 Fighter fuselage.
Total cost 18/6 or 92.5 p.
Did you find that whilst searching for mine ?
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Correct on all counts! Back to you, sir.
The constituent parts of the 18/6 outlay were:
5/- fuselage
5/- wing
8/6 fittings, dope, etc..
Those were the days when you could make yourself an aeroplane for less than a quid!
And in response to your question, the answer is no. The information came from 'The Story of Gliding' by Ann Welch - which has been in my library for more decades than I care to recollect - and my own research, which appears on another forum, concerning the Itford competition (q.v. http://sussexhistoryforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=2277.15). If it interests anyone, there is a good deal on that forum concerning early gliding in Sussex and the county's pre-war gliding clubs.
The constituent parts of the 18/6 outlay were:
5/- fuselage
5/- wing
8/6 fittings, dope, etc..
Those were the days when you could make yourself an aeroplane for less than a quid!
And in response to your question, the answer is no. The information came from 'The Story of Gliding' by Ann Welch - which has been in my library for more decades than I care to recollect - and my own research, which appears on another forum, concerning the Itford competition (q.v. http://sussexhistoryforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=2277.15). If it interests anyone, there is a good deal on that forum concerning early gliding in Sussex and the county's pre-war gliding clubs.
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Those years of reading Flying have paid off! I recognized it immediately - Pete Garrison's Melmoth. Do I get extra marks for naming the pilot?

Treaders' photo is of the early version, when it had a conventional stabilizer and an aluminium turtle-deck.
Melmoth met a sorry end and Pete had a lucky escape at Orange County Airport:


Treaders' photo is of the early version, when it had a conventional stabilizer and an aluminium turtle-deck.
Melmoth met a sorry end and Pete had a lucky escape at Orange County Airport:

The career of Melmoth 1 ended, after nine years and 2,000 hours, at what is now John Wayne Airport in Orange County. I was holding short of the right runway waiting for takeoff clearance when a Cessna landing on the left went out of control and plowed through me. Both planes were totaled, but no one was hurt.

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SNIP
my own research, which appears on another forum, concerning the Itford competition (q.v. http://sussexhistoryforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=2277.15). If it interests anyone, there is a good deal on that forum concerning early gliding in Sussex and the county's pre-war gliding clubs.
my own research, which appears on another forum, concerning the Itford competition (q.v. http://sussexhistoryforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=2277.15). If it interests anyone, there is a good deal on that forum concerning early gliding in Sussex and the county's pre-war gliding clubs.
Gnome de PPRuNe



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Those years of reading Flying have paid off! I recognized it immediately - Pete Garrison's Melmoth. Do I get extra marks for naming the pilot?
Treaders' photo is of the early version, when it had a conventional stabilizer and an aluminium turtle-deck.
Melmoth met a sorry end and Pete had a lucky escape at Orange County Airport:
Treaders' photo is of the early version, when it had a conventional stabilizer and an aluminium turtle-deck.
Melmoth met a sorry end and Pete had a lucky escape at Orange County Airport:
In 1975 when I was already quite smitten with small aeroplanes and pretty good at recognising most types, a T-tailed, tip-tanked object went zotting across the small patch of sky visible from our sitting room window - nothing in the books like it. A pic of it at Biggin Hill appeared in Air Pictorial later on, ahhhhh!
Garrison bought it over the Atlantic non-stop I think as long distance flying was its goal and he and his wife had some longer adventures across and around the Pacific. James Gilbert and, I think, Manx Kelly had a go at Booker. Following the accident in 1982 Garrison was already thinking about Melmoth II, a redesigned and much improved version of the concept which has been flying for some time and with which he is still tinkering.
You have control!

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Funnily enough, Melmouth came up in conversation the other day. I too spotted it right off. Garrison was asked about the best clothes to wear for long distance flying. He said probably a skirt, except for stepping down on arrival..
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Sorry, FP. I can't explain that. I have no problems using firefox and chrome - but I'm only acessing it from France, rather than the other side of the world!
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You have to be a registered user to access attachments to posts. The reason for this is that it goes some way to obstructing those who want to reap a harvest but don't want to sow any seed!
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