Air Anglia Fokker F28
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Explains a lot! There's 3 F-27s in that shot I notice, she must have been cloned twice!
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Third F-27 is slightly further to the south.
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I always enjoy having a nose around Latin American airfields with Google Earth - reminds me of the much missed Cockroach Corner at Miami. Alaskan airfields are good value too, plenty of four engined Douglas hulks.
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With regard to Air Anglia and the F28, Peter Villa at that time Chief Exec of Air UK is quoted in an article on Air Anglia in 'The Aeroplane' January 2017:
"They put 85 seater aeroplanes on what had previously been operated by 44 seat F27s, and they put F27s on routes that had been operated by Chieftains. The traffic didn't come up to the requirements. I don't think they'd really worked out the market potential - it very rapidly became obvious they were loosing a fortune".
"They put 85 seater aeroplanes on what had previously been operated by 44 seat F27s, and they put F27s on routes that had been operated by Chieftains. The traffic didn't come up to the requirements. I don't think they'd really worked out the market potential - it very rapidly became obvious they were loosing a fortune".
He, at BIA, accused us, at Air UK, of air piracy after one evening when we had declined to return one of his 1-11's to LGW where there were 89 punters waiting to go to PMI, next day our Commercial Director came in to Ops uttering "I'm supposed to give you lot a rollocking" before he burst out laughing and left
As we seem to be interested in PH-MOL, it was third off the line, the first two were scrapped quite early on but MOL was leased out all over the place, often for quite lengthy periods of a year or so (as with Air Anglia). It went around Europe, Africa, Asia, and got as far as New Guinea. After Fokker finally sold it off, long after the F28 was out of production, it was dumped in Bamako, Mali, where the Dutch Aviodrome museum made quite some efforts to get it airworthy again to bring it back home, but to no avail.
Google Earth seems to show a couple of F28s pushed out into the weeds at Bamako, here. I hope, having now passed her 50th birthday, she's the one at the top and not the one at the bottom.
https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@12.53.../data=!3m1!1e3
Google Earth seems to show a couple of F28s pushed out into the weeds at Bamako, here. I hope, having now passed her 50th birthday, she's the one at the top and not the one at the bottom.
https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@12.53.../data=!3m1!1e3
That coming from the guy that commenced replacing his BIA 1-11's with MD83's and soon thereafter went tits up!
He, at BIA, accused us, at Air UK, of air piracy after one evening when we had declined to return one of his 1-11's to LGW where there were 89 punters waiting to go to PMI, next day our Commercial Director came in to Ops uttering "I'm supposed to give you lot a rollocking" before he burst out laughing and left
He, at BIA, accused us, at Air UK, of air piracy after one evening when we had declined to return one of his 1-11's to LGW where there were 89 punters waiting to go to PMI, next day our Commercial Director came in to Ops uttering "I'm supposed to give you lot a rollocking" before he burst out laughing and left
We were not replacing the 1-11’s with MD83’s we were supplementing them. I suppose in your world the recession of 89/90 never happened and it was coincidence Air Europe and Dan Air disappeared about the same time!
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Nice picture. When I joined in late '78, the talk was F28 command in two years. We all know how that turned out. However, sticking with it, I did get the F28 command in August '92, albeit on the F28-100.
Always liked the F-28 - rugged, pretty reliable and a reasonable ride - not too noisy (inside) either
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The world's original mini-jet, they stopped manufacturing them in favour of later F70/F100 variants even though airlines still wanted to buy, more recently flying on the later generations of mini-jets is alike flying in airfix kits, the F28 aka F70/F100 was/is a brick toilet by comparison and I have always enjoyed flying in them
I an remember going into Balikpapan in the old days on a Pelita F28 that had less cockpit instruments than the C-172 I was flying in the USA......... firm landings were the order of the day - but you could drive them round the odd big Cu with some panache
