who still has flight engineers?
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who still has flight engineers?
a guy I was talking to at the airfield the other day is a flight engineer on a P3-C; I thought, wow, a dying breed. Or am I wrong? What planes still have FEs?
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yes, you'd imagine the An-225 might have an FE (or 3). That's an extremely specialised job, given the number of AN-225s flying. I've had the pleasure of seeing it on the ground, but never a t/o.
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Well any cargo operator with DC-10s, or 727s have em.
In Canada - off the top of my head - there's still Kelowna Flightcraft, and Cargojet (although I think they may be done with the 27s). Not to mention the couple private 727s floating around.
What is different is there is very few dedicated, career FEs. Some of my buds that have "sat sideways" are usually waiting for an FO spot or move on to an FO spot at another outfit.
It's not a bad gig really; it's a relatively quick way to get on a larger jet and scooch into that FO spot in a year or two.
In Canada - off the top of my head - there's still Kelowna Flightcraft, and Cargojet (although I think they may be done with the 27s). Not to mention the couple private 727s floating around.
What is different is there is very few dedicated, career FEs. Some of my buds that have "sat sideways" are usually waiting for an FO spot or move on to an FO spot at another outfit.
It's not a bad gig really; it's a relatively quick way to get on a larger jet and scooch into that FO spot in a year or two.
On the US Military side these come to mind:
C-5
KC-10
KC/RC/EC...-135
E-3 AWACS
E-8 J-Stars
E-4's and V-25's (Air Force one's)
E-6 mercury
C/AC/MC/EC/HC/KC...-130, pre- J models
E/P-3
C-5
KC-10
KC/RC/EC...-135
E-3 AWACS
E-8 J-Stars
E-4's and V-25's (Air Force one's)
E-6 mercury
C/AC/MC/EC/HC/KC...-130, pre- J models
E/P-3
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Interesting, I didn't know that. I wonder how they got around the requirement. Type Certificate Data Sheet specifies minimum crew as 3, Pilor, Copilot and Flight Engineer.
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Atlantic flew the Electra with just two pilots (no F/E). I think they were the only Electra operator to do this.
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The A300B4-600 did away with the Flight Engineer, (bloody computers).
I remember riding on an Eastern A300B4 jumpseat years ago, the FE said she was deadheading between preflights.
The L1011 FE job also looked pretty cushy to me back in the day but they were long gone before I got to a couple of carriers that had them.
All I remember about being an FE is 'Check Essential!' and 'Drop-rise, drop-rise'...
On the US Military side these come to mind:
Three: pilot, co-pilot and boom operator. Some KC-135 missions require the addition of a navigator.
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