The demolition of Woodford has begun
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Shaggy, that "Golden Triangle" is obviously the prime route for HS2.
Wilmslow stockbrokers and WAG handbag-buyers from Alderley Edge need to be in Londinium ASAP.
Which is good news.........Because no one else in Cheshire does!
Wilmslow stockbrokers and WAG handbag-buyers from Alderley Edge need to be in Londinium ASAP.
Which is good news.........Because no one else in Cheshire does!
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Shaggy, that "Golden Triangle" is obviously the prime route for HS2.
Wilmslow stockbrokers and WAG handbag-buyers from Alderley Edge need to be in Londinium ASAP.
Which is good news.........Because no one else in Cheshire does!
Wilmslow stockbrokers and WAG handbag-buyers from Alderley Edge need to be in Londinium ASAP.
Which is good news.........Because no one else in Cheshire does!
However, HS2 route as proposed is the best one overall for the nation, despite that.
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Even if the journey time was reduced from 2 hours to 1hr 30 mins, I'm at loss to understand how this would have such an improvement on business productivity, which is what some of the supporters would have us believe
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In the early 1980s the journey from Stockport to Euston was 2hrs 20 to 2hrs 35 depending on the route and the particular train. I assume avturboy wouldn't object to going back to that schedule as, based on his statement, the current timings show no significant improvement on the 1980s timings.
From years of commuting to London for business from the mid 1960s to the mid 1980s, I can tell him that each improvement in journey times helps take the pressure off when travelling between Euston and your first and last meetings of the day and an extra half hour may enable a better meetings schedule. Again, getting up for a train at 07.00 and not getting home until 21.00 on a regular basis is not the best way of life and if HST only allows business travellers to have an extra half hour in bed in the morning and get back to the family half an hour earlier in the evening, that has benefits in terms of health, family relationships and this reflects on people's attitude to work.
From years of commuting to London for business from the mid 1960s to the mid 1980s, I can tell him that each improvement in journey times helps take the pressure off when travelling between Euston and your first and last meetings of the day and an extra half hour may enable a better meetings schedule. Again, getting up for a train at 07.00 and not getting home until 21.00 on a regular basis is not the best way of life and if HST only allows business travellers to have an extra half hour in bed in the morning and get back to the family half an hour earlier in the evening, that has benefits in terms of health, family relationships and this reflects on people's attitude to work.
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It should be remembered that HS2 isn't being built primarily for reduced journey times, but to add much-needed capacity to a creaking Victorian railway system that is fast approaching 'full'. Indeed it IS full on some routes at some times preventing running of much-needed pax services. Rail freight is also considerably constrained at present by a lack of 'paths'.
HS2 will alleviate this at lest for the north - south corridor (the busiest) and it's cheaper to build a high speed railway these days (civil engineering is cheaper as steep gradients are not a problem - look at TGV) than a conventional one so it's a no brainer to be high speed.
HS2 will alleviate this at lest for the north - south corridor (the busiest) and it's cheaper to build a high speed railway these days (civil engineering is cheaper as steep gradients are not a problem - look at TGV) than a conventional one so it's a no brainer to be high speed.
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Inevitable
Woodfords closure was on the cards to join Hatfield, Kingston, Weybridge and Dunsfold the minute Bae set up Arlington securities to exploit its 'land bank' of airfields close to the capital or other metropolitan areas for prime housing .
The 146/RJ/RJX could have run for a hundred years and would still not have produced the profits the sale of the land of Hatfields 890 acres 20 miles from charing cross have given Bae. Its sad that everyone thought there would be a new dawn when Bae came into fruition, but sadly it was not to be.The old companies it replaced were at least aviation minded, the new board struggled with long term vision and returns and reverted to type- sell the land=quick profit.Woodford was probably sold to property developers years ago. Charles Masefield gave the excuse to Hatfields workforce that ATC issues were the main driver having to move north, he appears to have said the same at Woodford.
Reading the progression of the thread, we now have concerns about the amount of traffic that will pass through the 'golden triangle', these are probably the same people that bitched about the noise from the airfield, some people are never happy!
The 146/RJ/RJX could have run for a hundred years and would still not have produced the profits the sale of the land of Hatfields 890 acres 20 miles from charing cross have given Bae. Its sad that everyone thought there would be a new dawn when Bae came into fruition, but sadly it was not to be.The old companies it replaced were at least aviation minded, the new board struggled with long term vision and returns and reverted to type- sell the land=quick profit.Woodford was probably sold to property developers years ago. Charles Masefield gave the excuse to Hatfields workforce that ATC issues were the main driver having to move north, he appears to have said the same at Woodford.
Reading the progression of the thread, we now have concerns about the amount of traffic that will pass through the 'golden triangle', these are probably the same people that bitched about the noise from the airfield, some people are never happy!
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I've been reading 'Woodford in Pictures' (as it says, mostly pictures but with some extensive captions). I am amazed at the short life of many Jetstreams, 146s, and ATPs (well, perhaps no surprise at the latter). There'd be a picture of a brand new aeroplane in, say 1992, and by the turn of the century it had been scrapped!
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I have included a link to a number of photos taken today (6th April). Not long now!
Ringway Publications - Woodford - Demolition of the hangars begins - Friday 6th February 2015
Ringway Publications - Woodford - Demolition of the hangars begins - Friday 6th February 2015
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Drove past the main gates a couple days ago, seem so odd not to see the buildings. 
Does anyone know if they intend to keep the more recently built Avro House, perhaps with a view to refurbishing and letting as business space?
Does anyone know if they intend to keep the more recently built Avro House, perhaps with a view to refurbishing and letting as business space?
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I have included a link to photos showing the latest update on the vandalism of Woodford. Still standing, for now, are the flight sheds at the bottom of the airfield plus the original 1924 AVRO hangar.
Ringway Publications - Woodford - Demolition of the hangars begins - Friday 6th February 2015
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Ringway Publications - Woodford - Demolition of the hangars begins - Friday 6th February 2015
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Charles Masefield gave the excuse to Hatfields workforce that ATC issues were the main driver having to move north, he appears to have said the same at Woodford.
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I never thought the office block, being comparatively modern, would be demolished as well...
On the other hand, I suppose an office block and car park would devalue the soon to be residences nestling in the leafy Cheshire countryside....and upsetting the sensibilities of the residents of Anson Avenue.... or whatever token gesture is offered by way of a historical reminder of the past.
On the other hand, I suppose an office block and car park would devalue the soon to be residences nestling in the leafy Cheshire countryside....and upsetting the sensibilities of the residents of Anson Avenue.... or whatever token gesture is offered by way of a historical reminder of the past.
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However on a slightly positive note the Avro Heritage Museum looks like it's taking shape, it no longer looks like the fire station and the exterior appears to be finished with a new colour scheme and it now carries a sign stating that it is the Avro Heritage Museum.
Profiteers Precinct?
(I deliberately left out the apostrophe because most councils do not understand English well enough to know where they correctly belong).
(I deliberately left out the apostrophe because most councils do not understand English well enough to know where they correctly belong).