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Old 24th Dec 2014, 22:36
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HU-16 and Seaplanes

Just finished reading "Frozen in Time" and found it very interesting. I am interested in books about seaplanes and was looking for any suggestions. Got a whole shelf full of books about PBY's and was looking for other books on aircraft such as Hu-16's and other military seaplanes.
Thanks and have a Merry Christmas.
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hi

don't know about any books, but you may find this film interesting

Flight from Ashiya - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

"flight from ashiya" involves the Albatross seaplane in rescuse work. I think it is even available online.

enjoy...always thought the albatross was a nifty plane
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My understanding of the nomenclature is that an aircraft that lands on floats, is a seaplane, whereas one that lands on its hull is a flying boat.

This would make the Grumman Albatross a flying boat, albeit an amphibious one.
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My understanding of the nomenclature is that an aircraft that lands on floats, is a seaplane, whereas one that lands on its hull is a flying boat.
Ian you are absolutely correct regarding British nomenclature. However , on the other side of the Pond, "seaplane" loosely refers to any fixed wing type that lands on water.
Americans now also often use the term "aerostat", when actually referring specifically to what is a tethered aerostat. The "stat" part of the definition being misunderstood ( a dirigible airship also being an aerostat).
Aerostats as distinct from aerodynes seemingly now being little understood concepts in terms of their original etymology, judging by the long established adoption of the term "airplane".

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"It's not a "plane", Mr Bader, it's an "aeroplane"!"
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But then, the Yanks increasingly have had a bit of a problem with the English, and other, languages.
(Stand by for incoming!)
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oh just go away...
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In the spirit of December, the month that TWO AMERICANS invented the practical airplane (aeroplane) we will call it what we like.And since we crossed the atlantic in a FLYING BOAT before anyone else in an aeroplane, we will use OUR nomenclature.


On the other hand, if we didn't have British people, would we even have pprune? I think not. ;-)

and OP CANDRAS, hope you see that film,
"flight from ashia"

And wasn't it a lend lease PBY Catalina, being FLOWN BY A US NAVY Ensign that spotted the Bismark?
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Oh Dear , back to "Comic Novel" ,article of faith, cap and bells versions of aviation history again .
I'll just get back to enjoying the festive season in the real world
Happy Christmas everybody
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I am interested in books about seaplanes and was looking for any suggestions.
"The Sky Beyond" by Sir Gordon Taylor.
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"Twenty-thousand miles in a Flying Boat" by Sir Alan Cobham. 1930's exploration of Africa.
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Aah, but then if we had not had British people would we have had Americans?............hat, coat, running...........
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wander

and amazingly enough, if there were no Americans, there would be no British people now. They would be ...

not running.
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@#8

[quote:] In the spirit of December, the month that TWO AMERICANS invented the practical airplane (aeroplane) [quote!]

Sad perspective to use for supporting any argument!
A): There cannot be talked of any invention of an airplane as Lillienthal should be mentioned as the inventor of that more than a decade before.
Beside, plenty of fanatics(!) around the world played with the concept of motorised flying at same time!
B): I find the phrase 'practical airplane' a little overdone as the Flyer was airborne by the help of downhill tracks and supported in launch by weights/pulleys - And even then it couldn't apparently keep airborne by the engine-power alone :-/
In the end it was up to the upcoming experimentalists to get the construction working in a practical useable manner!

Any country in the modern world had their flight-pioneers and many died in the try long before Kittyhawk. It occours to me that trying to fly might be most deadly the higher above ground one comes and the death of several pioneers indicate a possible lift.
With other words: Orville & Wilburs achievement was morely 'to fly and survive to tell'!
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G - 15 all.
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conradas asked a polite question about book recommendations. Is it not rather rude to hijack his thread with a silly argument about nomenclature?
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flybiker7000...wrong...the wright flyer at kittyhawk DID NOT USE PULLEYS or a downhill track. So sorry, you must not have done your research.

and back to the original thread, I think there is another book about the Pan Am Flying Boat that flew around the world away from Wake Island during WW2.
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Kittyhawk

@ glendalegoon:
Wright Brothers Airplane Invention | Full Story part IV
Quote: "They tacked a large red flag (or a white sheet) on the side of the hangar, signaling the men of the Kill Devil lifesaving station to come lend a hand. It would be no easy task hauling the 600-pound machine a quarter of a mile away and up the side of the big dune. Even with the help of five men from the station, it took the Wrights over 40 minutes of hard slogging to get the machine into position on the launch rail halfway up the slope" !

The existence of a pyramidical tower with weights for a pulley-system, seems to be connected to later in-land experiments :-/
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sorry guy...hope you read the truth sometime.

including the famous telegram indicating all flights were from LEVEL GROUND with engine power alone.


hope you get to the site of the first flights and see for yourself. I see you are quite young, you need to spend years researching this stuff.

I won't even look at your link, when I have the book that ORVILLE wrote , after all , he was there.
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http://www.learnnc.org/lp/media/uplo...wbtelegram.jpg


here is a copy of the wright brother telegram...LEVEL GROUND ENGINE ALONE...check it out.

and now back to seaplanes
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