Hens teeth/ rocking horse droppings !
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Hens teeth/ rocking horse droppings !
As the place where there is always at least one person who can provide the answer, I am seeking not one but two of the above title, namely the whereabouts of a Rolls Royce Nene jet engine, and a Bristol Centaurus big radial, preferably in "as new" condition or at least capable of being returned to airworthiness.
Not a lot to ask of all you experts who inhabit this site ! I anticipate being overwhelmed with information in a trice !
Thanks in anticipation.
Not a lot to ask of all you experts who inhabit this site ! I anticipate being overwhelmed with information in a trice !
Thanks in anticipation.
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Don't know about the UK, but if the US isn't too far away and given the American predilection for sticking R3350s in Sea Furies, Nelson Ezell in Texas or Sanders Aviation at Ione, California could be possible sources for a Centaurus.
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Think a Nene powered the tunnel at Weybridge - I seem to recall one out on the Brooklands track when I was working there on MRCA so the museum may have one. But what looks to be a much better bet is this engine shown on
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Good luck with getting any sleeve-valve engine restored to running, let alone airworthy, condition.
This might be worth a read:
Bristol Hercules 230 - Aero Engines Carlisle
You may have more luck with a Nene or RD-45/VK-1, if you can get your hands on one.
This might be worth a read:
Bristol Hercules 230 - Aero Engines Carlisle
You may have more luck with a Nene or RD-45/VK-1, if you can get your hands on one.
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Bristol Herc 318
To add more, I have a 3 hr only, Bristol Herc on a pukka engine transit frame/stand I lent it to the Yorkshire Air Mueseum, they said they wanted to fit it onto their Halifax and start it to liven up the A/c and possibly taxi the thing, strange thing is .... despite all the promised information and ulitimate run up within a few months of my delivery,
I have not heard a peep from them.
I bought it for my father, for he was a Beau man, and despite knowing I could not find a Beau I thought the Herc would be the next best thing, when it was delivered to my warehouse I told Dad the big thing just delivered was for him, so off he went to look, he came back to the office with tears and very red eyes, but a strange thing then happened after all my years of asking him about the war time things that he was involved with, he started to talk about that time, and did so untill his death some three years later, I also took him to the fighter collection at Dux where they let Dad very close contact with the cockpit section of the Beau they were rebuilding, I could not get him out from that hangar.
Sorry if this has bored any of you.
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I have not heard a peep from them.
I bought it for my father, for he was a Beau man, and despite knowing I could not find a Beau I thought the Herc would be the next best thing, when it was delivered to my warehouse I told Dad the big thing just delivered was for him, so off he went to look, he came back to the office with tears and very red eyes, but a strange thing then happened after all my years of asking him about the war time things that he was involved with, he started to talk about that time, and did so untill his death some three years later, I also took him to the fighter collection at Dux where they let Dad very close contact with the cockpit section of the Beau they were rebuilding, I could not get him out from that hangar.
Sorry if this has bored any of you.
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Good luck with getting any sleeve-valve engine restored to running
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Centaurus in Norfolk
I'm certain that the late great Wg Cdr Ken Wallis had a Centaurus in it's transit egg(?), at least it was there last time I visited in 2009. I recall him saying that the RNHF had visited but it wasn't the right mark for the Sea Fury; I'm sure he said it was new and that he'd rescued it (not sure where from) because he couldn't bear to see it go to waste. It was in the shed cum workshop along from the autogyro hangar with his boats and various tooling - seem to recall the egg was blue.
No idea who has inherited the estate but worth a query perhaps? I'll bet he'd love to look down and see it put to good use
No idea who has inherited the estate but worth a query perhaps? I'll bet he'd love to look down and see it put to good use
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If you'd like your engine to be installed on a Beaufighter, perhaps you should get in touch with the Canadian Aviation Museum in Rockcliffe. Their TFX currently has no engines!
If you'd like your engine to be installed on a Beaufighter, perhaps you should get in touch with the Canadian Aviation Museum in Rockcliffe. Their TFX currently has no engines!
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And The Fighter Collection were looking for potentially airworthy engines for their TFX - I think the various Hercules (Herculii?) they have acquired are from Varsities and the like and are not suitable.
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Have all the Iraqi AF Bristol Centaurus engines been collected? I seem to recall that Rob Poynton got one for his Sea Fury, and a local gent who turned out to be a former Bristol factory engineer examined the Iraqi find, and declared it was in perfect condition, and had probably done less than 50 hrs run time.
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Thanks all who have responded; I have followed up some leads and found 2 "new" Nenes which unfortunately were the wrong Mark. Persevering still and will keep all posted with any progress.
1300 Squadron ATC The 1pm Squadron Nene Na
As adj to the above in 1980 I was called to the unit one day to find some bods from I think RAF Stafford waving bit of paper and demanding I hand over the almost complete Nene we kept hidden in the air raid shelter. Until they turned up and commandered the thing non of us knew just how valuable it was. It proved to be from the first tranche built. From the conditon it left us in I doubt it would ever run again but it just shows how cavalier things were in those days. to my knowledge it went to Hendon.
I have followed up some leads and found 2 "new" Nenes which unfortunately were the wrong Mark
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Bristol Hercules 216
Thought you might be interested in the Hercules 216 engine I have restored to running order, originally from the Hastings.
Hope you enjoy
Bristol Hercules aero sleeve valve radial engine First Run - YouTube
Hope you enjoy
Bristol Hercules aero sleeve valve radial engine First Run - YouTube