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Old 26th Jul 2017, 15:04
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For the bus' search: ' BOAC Atlantean bus'


and 'BEA Airport bus trailer'
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Old 26th Jul 2017, 17:39
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That BOAC bus was hired for the spectacular BA "To Fly To Serve" television advertisement of a couple of years ago where they had aircraft from the original DE Havilland biplane through to Concorde. It appeared in the background of the BOAC VC10 at Duxford. Looking at the picture above, it could well have been shot at the same time.

The BOAC buses were maintained by the airline itself at the MT garage on the Northside. The BEA ones were provided by London Transport from a garage at Chiswick. TWA also had double deckers, managed by coach company Halls of Hounslow. These are probably the least remembered, so here's a photo to add to the above.
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Old 26th Jul 2017, 18:06
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According to another flying forum the BOAC bus was back at Duxford today filming another commercial with the BOAC-Cunard VC 10.
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Old 26th Jul 2017, 18:55
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Originally Posted by pax britanica View Post
Don't recall a Stanwell pub called the Three Crowns and I grew up in the village there were several pubs for a small place .
Wheatsheaf, Five Bells, and Swan in the High Street , Happy Landing in Clare Road on the BA staff estate and the Rising Sun right by the perimeter road /cargo terminal . All go back way way beyond the airport except for the Happy landing which was built along with the estate
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There was a pub in the cargo area near the bank (Barclays) and Post Office, cant remember what it was called though !
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Old 26th Jul 2017, 19:25
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According to another flying forum the BOAC bus was back at Duxford today filming another commercial with the BOAC-Cunard VC 10.
"We once took care of you and provided outstanding levels of customer service. But today we don't give a stuff - we just want your money and you can darn well pay for your own sandwiches...."

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Old 26th Jul 2017, 19:59
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BEA terminal

Back in my mispent youth, remember many visits to the BEA terminal to get a feed. The terminal stayed open late (all night ?)
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Old 26th Jul 2017, 22:03
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Changing the subject a bit, although I believe its used by a bus company so still sort of on track. I driven past this building near the new fire station airside many a time but today I was working close by and it took me as being quite out of place! does anybody know what it was used for in the past? I'm guessin it dates from the 60/70s

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Old 26th Jul 2017, 22:14
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...and a pint (or two) in the Comet Club in the WLAT basement?
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Old 27th Jul 2017, 06:52
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Victoria Station

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Isn't there a check in facility for Virgin flights out of Gatwick at Victoria Station?
As far as I'm aware Virgin Atlantic have never had a check in facility at Victoria Station.

The Central London Air Terminal at London Victoria Station was built for British United Airways and was officially opened on the 01 May 1962 it was later expanded by British Caledonian Airways, after the merger with British Airways in 1998 the Victoria Station check in facility was kept and was well patronised and other airlines including American Airlines and Delta were also using the facility.

After 9/11 with security concerns and a decline in passengers using the facility the British Airways Central London Air Terminal at London Victoria Station was closed in 2002 as part of a major restructuring of the airline.
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Old 27th Jul 2017, 10:22
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At the risk of thread drift, and in anorak mode, the full (or full enough) story of BEA's one-and-a-half deckers from the 50s is here:
http://www.countrybus.org/rf/RF6.htm
And the later Routemasters with trailers are here:
http://www.countrybus.org/RMA/RMA.html
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Old 27th Jul 2017, 11:07
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The best regarded adjacent pubs for crews in 60's,70's and 80's were all in Colnbrook.
The favourite 'Ostrich', no doubt still reigns! We had a built in pub called the Star n' Gartar at King John's Palace, an old coaching inn, occupied by stewardesses and pilots.
The White Hart, closer to the airport was also much attended!
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Old 27th Jul 2017, 12:52
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Originally Posted by canberra97 View Post
As far as I'm aware Virgin Atlantic have never had a check in facility at Victoria Station.

The Central London Air Terminal at London Victoria Station was built for British United Airways and was officially opened on the 01 May 1962 it was later expanded by British Caledonian Airways, after the merger with British Airways in 1998 the Victoria Station check in facility was kept and was well patronised and other airlines including American Airlines and Delta were also using the facility.

After 9/11 with security concerns and a decline in passengers using the facility the British Airways Central London Air Terminal at London Victoria Station was closed in 2002 as part of a major restructuring of the airline.

it was new security measures after 9/11 100% that knocked on the head the BA terminals both at Victoria plus the new one at Paddington built especially for LHR express train-
decline in numbers was not the issue afaik - if they were their today they would be well utilised by many airlines
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Dockwell.

The building by stand 594 would appear to have been for fuel bowser maintenance. If you look at GE for 1999 it is within the fenced area of Perry Oaks fuel farm before the changes for T5.
As for use now? Maybe still the same.
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Old 28th Jul 2017, 08:00
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One bit of nostalgia for me was visiting the airport very early on a Saturday morning, probably in 1980.

After accompanying my sister through check in and waving goodbye to her at security, I wandered up to the top of the Terminal 3 car park at about 7am and was delighted to see the Kar-Air DC-6 thundering down 10R (as was), the only one I ever saw there (apart from the 50th anniversary flypast which I saw from Osterley). The day was further enhanced by the arrival of a Fred Olsen Electra, first I'd ever seen.

I missed the heyday of the propliner...
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Boxkite,

You are quite right about the pubs in Colnbrook a tinny pace whose transport lin ks went back to the days of stage coaches with as you say some old and nice pubs. The ostrich i remember well and it was (is) truly a very very ancient place with all sorts of mythology about it. The White Hart is in Longford thus protected a bit from traffic (on the ground) and has special memories as it was the first date for me and the wife to be , 42 years ago!

Back on track you could set your watch by the Kar-Air DC 6 the last regular piston prop at LHR by many years. It operated most days as I recall and I think had a swing tail. Bit more variety at LHR back in the day.
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Originally Posted by treadigraph View Post
One bit of nostalgia for me was visiting the airport very early on a Saturday morning, probably in 1980.

After accompanying my sister through check in and waving goodbye to her at security, I wandered up to the top of the Terminal 3 car park at about 7am and was delighted to see the Kar-Air DC-6 thundering down 10R
The Kar-Air DC-6BF (they only had one, it was ultra-reliable) operated a Finnair cargo flight from Helsinki to Heathrow, Manchester, then back home. At this same time I was working in Manchester, and it regularly routed directly overhead the city centre, and me, (presumably after a 23 departure and a right turn) at about 0900.

you could set your watch by the Kar-Air DC 6
Curiously there was a later DC6 operation the same. In the 1990s I regularly visited family for the weekend at the north end of The Wirral. Air Atlantique had a regular job with their DC6 on Manchester to Dublin Sunday newspapers, which left Manchester at 2300 on Saturday night, and came very punctually overhead, via the WAL VOR, probably just above MSA for the sector, about 20 minutes later. The R-2800s were audible for almost 10 minutes, and I always went outside to hear, and hopefully watch, it pass. When I didn't visit, just telephoned, I would learn that "I heard your old aeroplane go past last night". It normally returned direct to Coventry, but sometimes retraced its steps at about 0200. Funny how it woke me up again.


In much more recent times I caught up with the Air Atlantique crew, after they brought the DC6 into London City for its summer airshow, and they recalled the Dublin night newspaper flights. An interesting memory, of them hammering slowly along up there, and me down below watching them.
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Laker had a check in facility at Victoria.
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Originally Posted by pineridge View Post
Laker had a check in facility at Victoria.
I'm sure Virgin used to have some sort of desk at Victoria Station; I remember the girls' bright red uniforms cut slightly too small!
Maybe it was just a desk to book flights/holidays; they had one of those in our local (Woking) Allders until it became Debenhams.
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Andrew McCarthy a steward on board still resides in Windsor, and I have met him and on querying his flying career I asked if he was on 707's he told me his story in full. He did continue his flying career.
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Originally Posted by dixi188 View Post
Dockwell.

The building by stand 594 would appear to have been for fuel bowser maintenance. If you look at GE for 1999 it is within the fenced area of Perry Oaks fuel farm before the changes for T5.
As for use now? Maybe still the same.
Actually come to think of it, I do seem to remember an ESSO sign on the side of that building when the trident was parked nearby, many thanks dixi
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