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Old 26th Nov 2010, 23:33
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Those Magnificent Men in their Flying Machines

Hi, I'm new here so please be gentle I hope I've posted in the right place...

I'm looking for 3-view drawings for some of the planes from "Those Magnificent Men in their Flying Machines" to model in 3d for Microsoft's Flight Simulator.

I have completed the Demoiselle & Walton Edwards Rhomboidal, I can post pics if anyone is interested.

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For a teriffic "overview" try searching for Derek Piggot. I think that his Autobiography ["DeltaPapa"] will give you a wealth of detail. Meanwhile, Goggle has given me umpteen hits.
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Also "Building Aeroplanes for Those Magnificent Men" by Allen Wheeler if you can find a copy - no drawings I'm afraid but plenty of photos of the flyers and a few of the non-flyers. An interesting read too.
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Thanks guys ! Just ordered Derek Piggott's book from Amazon for £17 ! bargin
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Get yourself down to the Shuttleworth collection at Old Warden they have a number of the aircraft that were in the film, some still flying.

Shuttleworth Old Warden Park one of the few commercial ventures that's allowed air time on Pprune
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If you can get the relevant Aeromodeller magazine (Vol.31 No.3 March 1965) for the time, that gave three views and showed the difference between the film aircraft and the originals.

Bill Hannan, an American designer of indoor rubber powered models, did several plans of models in the film and also included the differences on the plans.

Here's a link to some more plans:

Model Flying Machines

Model Flying Machines

You might also take a look at the December 2010 Aviation Modeller International. According to the blurb its got four ''Mag Men' designs featured, although I've not seen it myself yet. Try WH Smith.

Model Activity Press | Modelling and Hobby Magazines for Aviation and Military Enthusiasts | Current Issue

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...and apologies if it's not what you want, but are you aware that there's a flt sim add-on CD, called 'The Early Years of Flight' with many pioneering a/c ?
search on firstclass-simulations.com
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Don't forget to model the sewerage farm! It was an important part of the film

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Windy Militant.

The Shuttleworth Collection is NOT a commercial organisation - it is a charitable Trust:

Dorothy Shuttleworth, although devastated by the loss of her son, set up the mansion as a Red Cross Convalescent Home for injured airmen and created a small chapel, dedicated to Richard. In 1944 she decided to place the estate in a charitable Trust in memory of Richard; she wanted to ensure that it would continue as one entity to be used for the purpose of agricultural and aviation education, two interests that Richard was especially keen on.
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Also "Building Aeroplanes for Those Magnificent Men" by Allen Wheeler
I'll second that.

I have a first edition copy given to me by my late Father - a very interesting book on how they built the replica aircraft with plenty of good photographs.
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Many thanks everyone !

Some of those books are quite expensive £100 for "Building Aeroplanes for Those Magnificent Men" I'll put it on my To Buy list

Delta Papa is a great book received it today

The sewage farm will definitely be there, any ideas on where the planes in the film (fictionally) flew from, like Brookley to.... I've possibly found where they landed in France, Guyancout LFPR, unfortunate it is no longer there.
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All filming was completed in the UK so far as I know. Mostly Booker, a bit down at Dover, some up at Skegness (Derek Piggott flew the Boxkite back from there to avoid de-rigging it again!) where they filmed the dune scenes and the trip across France.

Pity that the Antoinette and Demoiselle aren't still flying...
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Didn't they have to get Joan Hughes to fly the Demoiselle because it wouldn't fly with anyone heavier?
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Brookley was Booker (Wycombe Air Park).

Didn't they have to get Joan Hughes to fly the Demoiselle because it wouldn't fly with anyone heavier?

Yes, the Demoiselle was too small for a man to fly.
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I am away till after Christmas, however, if you wish to contact me after the New Year I will lend you my copy of 'Building Aeroplanes'.

Usual caveats apply.
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Oops Sorry Pops! I should have said it has special status here on Pprune.
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Some of those books are quite expensive £100 for "Building Aeroplanes for Those Magnificent Men" I'll put it on my To Buy list
At that price, I'll put my own copy on my 'For Sale' list.
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"Yes, the Demoiselle was too small for a man to fly."

Not strictly true - believe Santos Dumont had been a jockey at one time hence the need for a smaller pilot.
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"Not strictly true - believe Santos Dumont had been a jockey at one time hence the need for a smaller pilot.

Yes but they got the wonderful Joan Hughes to fly the Demoiselle - absolutely the best pilot to ever fly one.

Big fan of JH and all her associates!
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That picture of her standing next to the mainwheel of a Stirling is a classic
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