'Ice PIlots' - Quest Channel
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The answer to "is there a replacement aircraft for the DC3?", is Joe McBryan doesn't give a sh*t, he doesn't want to replace them. He hates jets and it has taken years and years for his son an friends to even convince him to look at turboprops. Even then, they go out and buy what are considered old equipment like the Electra.
Buffalo Joe simply doesn't think jets are real airplanes. He still flies hiw own Norduyn Norseman built in the 30's for fun.
Buffalo Joe simply doesn't think jets are real airplanes. He still flies hiw own Norduyn Norseman built in the 30's for fun.
The answer to "is there a replacement aircraft for the DC3?", is Joe McBryan doesn't give a sh*t, he doesn't want to replace them. He hates jets and it has taken years and years for his son an friends to even convince him to look at turboprops. Even then, they go out and buy what are considered old equipment like the Electra.
The capital cost of new equipment is the main impediment to any frontier operator, who cannot get the consistent utilisation to amortize the investment required for 'modern' aircraft. Boom and bust resource based economies, ball-busting weather and not enough good people prepared to work and raise a family in such a challenging environment are just some of the distractions.
Finding a replacement for life expired, gravel kitted B732's is almost impossible today. I believe Boeing charges around $750k just to authorize the transfer of the gravel kit hardware and documentation from one old used 732 to another, only slightly less old aircraft! And, of course, the market is too small to justify the manufacturer certifying a new aircraft for gravel operations.
I truly hope Buffalo Joe thrives and survives for many more years, he deserves every success.
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Yeah, I'm translating it into French for the TV over here.
If it wasn't for the help from the guys (and gals?)on this forum, I'd still be on page 1!
Good nostalgia though!
If it wasn't for the help from the guys (and gals?)on this forum, I'd still be on page 1!
Good nostalgia though!
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The Book Version
Have not seen this programme - yet - but now intend to very shortly - am currently reading a paperback 'The Flying North' by Jean Potter, subtitled 'The classic history of the Alaskan bush pilots.' Appears to be originally copyrighted in 1947 and also produced in the 70's and 80's, this lists the stories of the lone pilots that established flying in Alaska in the 20s and 30's - if you can find a copy its well worth getting, incredible characters. 
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Been watching this programme for the past few weeks. It's great to see the old aircraft still being used; in some ways I'd love to work there but I doubt I could stand the snow and freezing temperatures they endure out there for so long. 
Incidentally, if you have 'Freeview' through your tv ariel, the show is on Quest, channel 38 every Thurs at 9pm and repeated on Fri at 10pm. It wont cost you a bean and is well worth a watch imo.
Incidentally, if you have 'Freeview' through your tv ariel, the show is on Quest, channel 38 every Thurs at 9pm and repeated on Fri at 10pm. It wont cost you a bean and is well worth a watch imo.
Did anybody see last night's edition in which the Turkish pilot did a "wheels-up" landing in the CL 215 water-bomber and ran the keel down the runway at Izmir?
When he realised he went around and put the wheels down for a successful landing. Phew! I wonder how they sorted that one out with the insurance company?
When he realised he went around and put the wheels down for a successful landing. Phew! I wonder how they sorted that one out with the insurance company?
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Did anybody see last night's edition in which the Turkish pilot did a "wheels-up" landing in the CL 215 water-bomber and ran the keel down the runway at Izmir?
When he realised he went around and put the wheels down for a successful landing. Phew! I wonder how they sorted that one out with the insurance company?
When he realised he went around and put the wheels down for a successful landing. Phew! I wonder how they sorted that one out with the insurance company?
. The engine oil leak looked a little terminal but a manly decision by the Captain! I noted they found a third water bearing replacement aircraft to send to Turkey.
Did someone mention flying by the seat of one's pants! Tough blokes at Buffalo!
Unfortunately I didn't tape it but I got the impression that the Buffalo guys had handed the aircraft over for the Turks first "solo". Certainly the Buffalo "head honcho" was watching the performance from the ground.
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Buffalo guys had handed the aircraft over for the Turks first "solo".
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The Buffalo Airways amphibious CL-215, Canadian registration C-FTXB, was being used for pilot training at Izmir, Turkey. During a landing at the airport, the landing gear was not selected down and the aircraft’s centre keel made contact with the runway before the landing was aborted and a go around was successfully carried out. The aircraft returned to the airport and landed uneventfully with the landing gear down and locked. A post-occurrence inspection revealed slice-through damage to the center keel beam consistent with ground contact. The damage on the center keel starts approximately 3-4 feet forward of the water drop doors and widens in the aft direction (in a tapered shape) to approximately 10 inches from each side of the keel. There was damage to the ribs and structural members inside the hull.
Its my Friday Night treat to watch these guys, but I am afraid Iam too old to be a Rampie
Buffalo guys had handed the aircraft over for the Turks first "solo".
If that was the case then title and insurance would have passed to the Turks and Buffalo would be fireproof. As it was an awful lot was made of 'we've done a wheels up' rather than 'they've done a wheels up'.
If that was the case then title and insurance would have passed to the Turks and Buffalo would be fireproof. As it was an awful lot was made of 'we've done a wheels up' rather than 'they've done a wheels up'.
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Taking 2 DC-3's to Oshkosh.
Buffalo Airways DC-3 Pre-Oshkosh Video-
http://www.eaa.org/video/eaa.html?videoId=110918534001
They’re flying 2 down, 1 for the PAX, 1 for the camping gear!
Boy, that’s doing Oshkosh in style!
http://www.eaa.org/video/eaa.html?videoId=110918534001
They’re flying 2 down, 1 for the PAX, 1 for the camping gear!
Boy, that’s doing Oshkosh in style!
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Its my Friday Night treat to watch these guys
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I saw it for the first time last night ...... nice!!!! I'm off to Yellowknife!!!!