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Old 7th Feb 2010, 11:13
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ATC Airways & Frequency details, early 1970's

I am researching into the following UK airways of the early 1970's.
Can anyone give me the details of the following airways, where they started and finished and also the frequencies under their control if possible....
AMBER ONE
BLUE ONE
RED THREE
AMBER 25


I think they still exist but there 'start and finish' points may now be different.

Any help would be greatly appreciated.
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I have masses of SATCC/LATCC information from the late fifties, sixties (in particular 1964-67) and seventies including my original Mediator briefing documents (Winter 1970-1971). Subject to any Alzheimers I can probably still remember some of it (ingrained in my memory, threes, fives and eights) as a Stage-Half 'A'-Side controller, North Bank and South Bank Wing-Man and North bank Sector Controller.....far, far too much to PM. Charts, Half Mils from when A1 at DTY was 10nm wide, metal strip holders, bendy strip holders, Oceanic strip holders, all sorts of cr@p. Course notes from No.43 Assistants Course, it's all a fire risk!

Aaah De Havilland, Lichfield NDB 125.9 Daventry NDB 124.6 Beacon Hill Fan-Burnham Fan -Chertsey Fan 127.1 Dunsfold Radio Range 127.7 Seaford VOR-Dieppe type stuff etc

1966

Amber One PWK-NGY-DCS-Burtonwood-LIC-DTY etc
Scottish Airways 128.5
Scottish Airways 124.5
Preston Airways 124.2
Preston Airways 125.9
London Airways 124.6
London Airways 127.7

Blue One Liffey WAL Oldham Ottringham Dogger Blubell etc
W of WAL 124.2
E of WAL 125.1
(This route began life as Green Two....!)

Red Three
128.5 BEL 125.1 IOM 125.1 WAL 124.2 Whitegate 125.6 etc

Amber 25
WAL 124.2 KNI 131.2 BCN BHD 125.2 50N

Loads and loads more more.

And that's all out me 'ead from memory before I go up the loft.....

PM me with what you want and I'll dig it out.........
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Have PM'd you....
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I remember looking at an early airways map and Upper Amber1 started at STN [Stornoway] and finished at Hong Kong although not in a straight line
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Mark,
Don't forget the 2 airways established to widen AMBER ONE in the late '60s/early 70s.

AMBER ONE WEST,,,,,,,,,,,Whitegate - Stafford - Honiley.

AMBER ONE EAST............Pole Hill - Lichfield East - Daventry.

Can anyone scan any Aerad or similar charts to the web from the inception of 'airways' to the 1970s?
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Thanks for that. Your suggestion is a great idea and there must be guys out there that have that info and might want to share it...?
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Remember, when LAP [LHR now] changed runway, the Airway System changed too, London on 28....."clockwise flow" 10, "anti-clock"....
eeeh, them were't days
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At Preston, the cry used to go up: "London on easterlies!"
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And at PATCRU the cry was "Oh Beggar"
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That sounds a lot more polite than the PATCRU I knew!
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We were more "Civilised" then
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Jeppesen 1971 Flight Planning Chart - Europe

I have a copy of the above and would be happy to send a scan by e-mail to anyone who has the technical knowledge to post it here - I don't !
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Thanks for replying.
Tried to see how to do it, bit puzzled myself how to attach the scanned image..!
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Not the vintage you are looking for, but might help a little




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Hello,

I have also been trying to find information on airways and frequencies from the sixties onwards. Would those who have PM'ed be willing to share this information?

Much appreciated,
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GK430.

Great maps..!
But can you give me dates for them ?



Thanks
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Mark,

The Jeppesen was from '88 and the EUR1 / EUR2 from June '92.
I had a much older EUR1/2......but finding it - sorry!

Hmm - I hope I am not infringeing anything by 're-producing' these here?
Will remove if that is the case, but they are well out of date!!

UG 1 from STR - though to DVR and beyond was much the same for years.

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Does anyone have any ATC frequencies from the 1970's ?

Am looking for Airways frequencies and Manchester frequencies in particular...
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London Pole Hill sector was on 132.7, DTY sector on 133.7 and the area south of WAL (don't know which sector that was) on 133.6 if memory serves me right. Standard route from Scottish TMA to LHR was Dean Cross - Pole Hill - Stafford - Honiley - Kingswood - Bovingdon.

Ah memories.
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