Viscount fuel starvation
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While doing flying spanner duty on a BA Viscount flight to Campbelltown shortly before the Alidair incident I had a similar occurence - the bowser read about 10 times the amount that went on board.It was an RAF bowser and the controls were set so that the fuel was recirculating through the meter and back into the tank.Our procedure was to always use the drip tubes to check tank quantity so it was picked up.I believe this is what happened in Santander and brought this to the attention of Alidair personnel at GLA but had no follow up.
The only difficulty was explaining to a couple of not too bright RAF airmen that I was not accepting a 2000+ fuel uplift on an aircraft which had a total capacity of 1946 imp gallons!
The only difficulty was explaining to a couple of not too bright RAF airmen that I was not accepting a 2000+ fuel uplift on an aircraft which had a total capacity of 1946 imp gallons!
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Going off the thread, There was the BMA Visc that had the mishap at LBA.
Not really read or heard much about this, Apart from the thread last year on pprune.
Your father I presume will know and remember this incident Jan 1972 I think??
Remember the night OHOT crashed at Uttoxeter, It was one of 2 flights going into COV a sunday night at about 21.40 if I remember??
Not really read or heard much about this, Apart from the thread last year on pprune.
Your father I presume will know and remember this incident Jan 1972 I think??
Remember the night OHOT crashed at Uttoxeter, It was one of 2 flights going into COV a sunday night at about 21.40 if I remember??
G-AZLT was landing in heavy rain and aquaplaned on the runway. The pilot steered the aircraft off the runway to prevent an overrun and the port undercarriage collapsed, causing damage to the wing, flap and propellers. On 13 February 1981, G-AZLT was moved by road to East Midlands Airport and rebuilt (using wings from G-BAPD). It was registered as G-BMAT on 30 March 1981, making its first flight after the repairs on 27 April 1981. It continued in service with BMA until 1986, when it was traded in on BAe ATPs. It became G-OHOT in 1989 and crashed in 1994.
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David
The accident report for G-OHOT is available on the AAIB website.
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G-ARBY BOOK by Jim Rider
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Hello
I hope this email finds you. It concerns your post on 14/7/09on the topic ‘Viscount fuel starvation’.
For the last year I have been researching and writing a short book for the Ottery St Mary Heritage Society on the subject of the G-ARBY (Viscount 708) forced landing on 17/7/80. Whilst there is quite a lot of information available on this incident, including AAIB 9/81, this has previously not been collected into a book. My project is basically a ‘not for profit’ venture and we, the Ottery St Mary Heritage Society and myself, are just seeking to preserve the historical facts in a readable, interesting short book format. A PPruNe member has been assisting me with some professional information, comments and advice.
I was very interested to read the discussion on the PPruNe site which apparently began on 2/7/09 (tinpis) as the contributions there gave a good insight into technical issue and some first hand, and helpful, witness accounts.
I wonder if you would be kind enough to give me your permission to freely quote your contribution to the discussion in my book. I will certainly give you a full acknowledgement, in whatever form you choose (your user name for example) and if you would like a copy of the book when it is published, I will be happy to send you one.
Hoping to hear from you favourably at your earliest convenience.
Yours sincerely
Jim Rider
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Hello
I hope this email finds you. It concerns your post on 14/7/09on the topic ‘Viscount fuel starvation’.
For the last year I have been researching and writing a short book for the Ottery St Mary Heritage Society on the subject of the G-ARBY (Viscount 708) forced landing on 17/7/80. Whilst there is quite a lot of information available on this incident, including AAIB 9/81, this has previously not been collected into a book. My project is basically a ‘not for profit’ venture and we, the Ottery St Mary Heritage Society and myself, are just seeking to preserve the historical facts in a readable, interesting short book format. A PPruNe member has been assisting me with some professional information, comments and advice.
I was very interested to read the discussion on the PPruNe site which apparently began on 2/7/09 (tinpis) as the contributions there gave a good insight into technical issue and some first hand, and helpful, witness accounts.
I wonder if you would be kind enough to give me your permission to freely quote your contribution to the discussion in my book. I will certainly give you a full acknowledgement, in whatever form you choose (your user name for example) and if you would like a copy of the book when it is published, I will be happy to send you one.
Hoping to hear from you favourably at your earliest convenience.
Yours sincerely
Jim Rider
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G-ARBY
Just to correct David's post.The First Officer or co-pilot was not a captain.
I flew for Alidair at the time.I knew the captain,first officer and David's dad quite well!
I flew for Alidair at the time.I knew the captain,first officer and David's dad quite well!
CVR Transcript
Having read Jim Rider's recently published book about this accident can anybody tell me if the CVR transcript was ever published? It is not attached to the published AAIB report.Thanks.
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Apologies for Necro'ing this thread, but I work at RAF St Mawgan and have just been contacted by Mr Paul Burns, one of the founders of Brittany Ferries. It was indeed their emergency charter that gave rise to the task that resulted in the crash landing of G-ARBY. Mr Burns was telling me about this incident, but his reason for contacting us is that apparently the Station Commander at the time, Group Captain CJ Phillips, allowed the use of RAF St Mawgan for some of the charter flights returning passengers to Plymouth - I guess that Exeter couldn't accommodate all the necessary flights in time. Does anyone know about this arrangement and who would have flown into the Station? It happened in July 1980, with the 17th July being the last of at least 2 days of flights.
