Wikiposts
Search
Aviation History and Nostalgia Whether working in aviation, retired, wannabee or just plain fascinated this forum welcomes all with a love of flight.

Cranking Question

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 20th Apr 2009, 08:22
  #1 (permalink)  
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Devon
Posts: 143
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Cranking Question

I was watching a documentary on Adolf Galand which showed two 'Erks' hand cranking a Bf109 to get it started.

I recall similar tactics used ( with a very small handle which seemed fit only to start a lawn mower ) used on the Spitfire.

Since my only experience of cranking an engine with a starter handle was with a Morris Minor - I remember how physically tiring that was.

If 1000cc and four cylinders was hard enough how on earth did two people have the strength to crank a massive V12 Spitfire lump???

Anyone had experience of this?
denis555 is offline  
Old 20th Apr 2009, 08:35
  #2 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Jun 2001
Location: Fragrant Harbour
Posts: 4,787
Received 7 Likes on 3 Posts
It was an inertia starter. A flywheel was got up to speed by hand cranking, then a clutch was engaged and the hopefully, the kinetic energy in the rotating flywheel had enough oomph to start the engine. Other inertia systems had an electric motor to energise the flywheel. The NA Harvard had/has such a system where an electric switch was moved one way to spin up the flywheel. Once the 'hum' had stabilised, the switch was moved the opposite way to engage the clutch.

Later Merlin powered Spitfires had conventional electric starters. Griffon powered Spitfires had cartridge starters.
Dan Winterland is offline  
Old 20th Apr 2009, 08:46
  #3 (permalink)  
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Devon
Posts: 143
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Ah I should have realised that it used inertia -thanks.

Mind you it must have needed some muscle to get the inertia wheel up to speed?
denis555 is offline  
Old 20th Apr 2009, 18:34
  #4 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Station 42
Age: 69
Posts: 1,081
Received 92 Likes on 38 Posts
I've done manual inertia starts on Dakotas (pre-direct drive days) and a PT17. They sure warm you up on a cold morning.
stevef is offline  
Old 21st Apr 2009, 07:58
  #5 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Jun 2002
Location: Manchester MAN
Posts: 6,644
Received 74 Likes on 46 Posts
Google "fairey swordfish inertia starter" and have a look at the extract that comes up in the first listing
From the Flight Deck: An Anthology of the Best Writing on Carrier


A good description of the inertia starting process, leading into the Taranto raid.

I remember reading in another book about a crew becoming exhausted trying to start the Swordfish of a new pilot. Eventually, the Petty Officer climbs up to the cockpit, looks around and then pointedly switches the mags on!
India Four Two is offline  
Old 21st Apr 2009, 14:31
  #6 (permalink)  
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Devon
Posts: 143
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Thanks I42 - interesting link.
denis555 is offline  

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off



Contact Us - Archive - Advertising - Cookie Policy - Privacy Statement - Terms of Service

Copyright © 2024 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Use of this site indicates your consent to the Terms of Use.