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Old 10th Dec 2008, 19:08
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Reimers, yes, that picture says a lot. Congrats to you and your friends for doing such a beautiful job! As kluge wrote, "But oh, how wonderful when airborne (in anything)."

.....Despite the mask of checks, numbers and discipline of execution aviators are passionate people *

Just read the poetry. John Magee is a good start.

* there is a difference between a flyer and an aviator.
kluge, I guess I aviate the words then.

I got hooked on aviation and writing after reading John McGee's "High Flight" in grade 5.

Thank-you so much for the link to the Aviation centre in NZ, and the museum in Palm Springs. One day I hope to do a complete tour of some of the major museums in the U.S., the big one in the UK (sorry, the name escapes me), the Air & Space Museum in D.C., and the military and civilian boneyard in Arizona.

I do think that the majority are passionate people - particularly those who flew before the intervention of the glass c/pit - but technology has diluted it somewhat.

I am familiar with Richard Bach, but prefer the work of the French writer/aviator, Antoine de St. Exupery. St. Ex. possessed the soulful accuity of a true writer and "aviator." His foresight was chilling.

In a letter dated July 30, 1944, while engaged as a pilot with the French Free Forces, St. Ex. wrote, ".....One is far removed here from the pervasive hatred, but in spite of the comradeship within the squadron, there is the feeling of human frailty. I have no one, no one to talk to. What a spiritual desert.

If I'm shot down, I won't regreat anything. The future anthill appalls me and I hate the robot virtues...."

On July 31st, 1944, Saint-Exupery's P-38 Lightning was shot down during a reconnaissance mission over the Mediterranean. The wreck was not discovered until 2000. A few years earlier, a fisherman off the coast of Marseille found Exupery's silver identity bracelet, hooked to a swath of fabric from his flight suit.
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Old 10th Dec 2008, 19:32
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I believe the phrase 'F*%K OFF!' was invented for just such an occasion. I generally bypass reasoned argument and head straight for that option in similar circumstances, as I find it neatly summarises every aspect of my attitude towards such people. If further dialogue is required then "......and tell your bears to f*%k off as well!" generally clears up any misunderstandings.
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"......and tell your bears to f*%k off as well!"
"Lions and tigers and bears, Oh My! Lions and tigers and bears, Oh My!....and f*%k off as well!" sings Dorothy Gale as she skips down the yellow-brick road."

D86, I tend to get mired in the muse. I do admire a man who can get right to the point!

Thanks, luv. You made me laugh.
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Try also Roal Dahl (of Willy Wonka fame). Some of his flying stories in "Over to you" are harrowing but beautiful.

He was an RAF fighter pilot in WWII based in the Mediterranean theatre.

Over to You: Ten Stories of Flyers and Flying - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

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