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Old 16th Oct 2008, 21:40
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Vickers Vedette

Here's a bit of information on the 'Vedette'. Note the airworthy example in the Western Canada Aviation Museum.




Canadian Vickers Vedette - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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There's also the Foynes Flying Boat Museum in Co. Limerick in Ireland, nearest airport Kerry. No actual working boats as such but a very faithful reconstruction of a Clipper from original Boeing plans.
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A Marlin, 3 Catalinas, a Albatross and some smaller flying boats at The museum of Naval Aviation Pensacola Florida

National Naval Aviation Museum - Aircraft on Display (H-M)
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Flying Boats of the Empire: Thursday 16th May 2013

This lecture will be given by Richard Knott, a highly acclaimed author and researcher on 20th century history and will discuss the turbulent history of the 42 Empire Flying Boats built by Short Brothers.

None exist now; the first was launched in 1936 and all but one was gone by 1947. Richard’s talk, based on his recently published book of the same name, tells the story of these great flying boats. In the pre-war years, flying Imperial Airways in an Empire was travel as it should be; slow enough to savour the experience, an easy rhythm to the day, with languid descents for lunch, tea and dinner. There was however, a darker side; by May 1940, less than four years since the first launch on the River Medway, 11 Empires had been lost in a series of mishaps.

Richard’s lecture will consider why the halcyon days of the flying boat were so short lived. Part of the story will touch on some figures from the past with flying boat connections: Churchill; the playwright, Terence Rattigan; Sir John Reith (who chaired both the BBC and Imperial Airways); Don Bennett (the wartime Pathfinder); and the doomed Duke of Kent.

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Hi, if you are in Brasil you can go to see Jahu, a Savoia Marchetti S55c.
I saw it in Parque Ibuerapera in Sao Paulo city in 1995 but now it is restored and to be found in Agua Vermelha in SP state.
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A pleasant (American produced) documentary showcasing the Martin Mars, the Saunders-Roe SR45 Princess and the Hughes H4 Hercules.

Enjoy!

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Shorts Sealand


Short Brothers SA6 Sealand G-AIVX as seen at RNAS Stretton on 25th July 1953 (Photo: RA Scholefield)

The Short Brothers SA.6 Sealand was a light commercial amphibian with accommodation for 5-7 passengers and was suitable for water access or runways. It could take off from and land on rivers, lakes and sheltered bays or prepared runways.

It was flown by either a single pilot or a pilot and navigator and saw service with the Indian Navy and was employed operationally in various other locations including Borneo, East Bengal, Norway and Venezuela.

Two variants were produced, the SA.6 Sealand I and the SB.7 Sealand III, an extended version with longer wings, a deeper rudder and strengthened hull.

Shorts employed the prototype, G-AIVX (above) for company use, often using it without the wing-floats and struts to increase the craft's payload.

My thanks (as always) to RA Scholefield for his permission to use images from his superb collection!
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Last November the younger daught was cycling round France.
She was lucky enough to be given a guided tour of the restoration section of the Musee de L'Air. Even invited up into the wheelhouse of the stripped out Sandringham that was once VH-APG, with Sir Gordon Taylor's Pacific Cruisebird charter services out of Rose Bay, Sydney.

VH-APG Short S-25 Sunderland

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Take your regular airlines darn near to the end of the world then go just a few hundred kilometres further until you reach the Chatham Islands.

The aircraft is an RNZAF Short Sunderland, which provided an aviation lifeline to the island until it was holed by a rock while taking off from the Te Whanga Lagoon in 1959.

Chatham Islands: Reenacting air adventures - Travel - NZ Herald News
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Fantome/John Hill: Most interesting.

Of the Shorts Sealand (above) RA Scholefield says:

"It had been a lousy wet day for the Stretton Navy Air Show but towards the end of the afternoon the sun came out enabling me to take this shot.

By the way, the only extant UK example of the Shorts Sealand (G- AKLW ex Saudi Arabia) is displayed at the Ulster Folk and Transport Museum at Cultra Manor near Belfast."

Again, my sincere thanks to RA Scholefield for access to his wonderful photo collection.

More Sealand ..


Shorts S6 Sealand G-AKLV as seen at Farnborough Aerodrome in 1951 (Photo: NA Archives)

This craft was registered to Short Brothers from 1947 to 1952 whereupon it was purchased by the Ralli Brothers who maintained ownership until 1960 when it was withdrawn from use.
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Was it a Widgeon or similar the Duke of Westminster kept at valley in the 60s?
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A couple of Indian Navy Sealands from the Indian Navy Fleet Requirements Unit at Cochin took part in the JET '57 exercise at Trincomalee (Ceylon) and were detached to RAF China Bay in October 1957 where I took these photos.

Lovely lines for an amphibian.





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Duke of Westminsters Amphibian

It was a Grumman Goose G-ASXG and he had it re-engined with PT-6 turboprops but I have an notion it was not an official McKinnon conversion...used Northolt for London ca. 1970(here approaching RWY08)

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There's a couple of early Curtis flying boats at the Canadian Air & Space Museum in Rockcliffe, Ontario (just east of Ottawa). They also have a Canso and used (?) to have two Canadian Vickers aircraft on display - one a wreck as pulled out of the crash site and one a modern replica.

The Naval Museum at Jeronimos (sp?) in Lisbon has an original Curtis and a floatplane that made the first Transatlantic crossing by flying from destroyer to destroyer. They also have what looks suspiciously like a Grumman Mallard.

If you're interested in modern flyingboats, don't forget that all Canadian Provinces operate the Canadair 215T/415 Waterbomber (not sure if any Cansos are still in operation) and there are similar squadrons in Europe.

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It was a Grumman Goose G-ASXG and he had it re-engined with PT-6 turboprops but I have an notion it was not an official McKinnon conversion..
G-ASXG was originally a G-21A. As far as I am aware it was converted its engine conversion was carried out by Marshall's of Cambridge in 1967/68 using a McKinnon kit. It was one of two conversions, the other in the USA, to the same specification that were known as Hybrids.

G-ASXG later went to Canada as C-FAWH and, in the 1980', was re-converted to rotary engines.
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Old 8th Oct 2013, 15:30
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G-ASXG later went to Canada as C-FAWH and, in the 1980', was re-converted to rotary engines.
Or radials, even (Wasp Juniors, in fact).
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Warmtoast/Yoyo: Some nice shots there!

Do you suppose the 'Grosvenor Goose' was switched back to radials in an effort to reclaim her authenticity as a 'classic' or was there a more practical reason?
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Bombardier found out the hard way that removing the radials from a 215 - and their stabilising gyro effect - meant you had to add a lot of additional aerodynamic stability (the wing tip extensions & tail feathers on a 215T/415). Might be one reason for gong back to radials.
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There is a full size replica of a Boeing 344 Flying Boat at the Foynes Museum in County Clare,the only one of its type in the world

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if you really want to see one of the most important flying boats of all time, try to get to Pensacola Florida, USA and the US Navy aeronautical museum.

They have the original NC4. The first plane to cross the Atlantic. There is a good book about this famous flight, called: FIRST ACROSS.

A march was written for this event and is still played today. The crew(US NAVY and US Coast Guard) was treated like rock stars and got special medals from congress.
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