Did A Bucc Fly Through Brough's Hangar
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Request noted and will comply - happy days at that time producing so much that was good. Now all lost, despite the claims of a certain self-proclaimed 'World-Class' Organisation.
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Request noted and will comply - happy days at that time producing so much that was good. Now all lost, despite the claims of a certain self-proclaimed 'World-Class' Organisation.
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Put it this way,
A.T.C. are supposedly responsible for airfield safety and surface inspections but, back in the 70's, if we attempted to take the Landrover to a particular part, or two, of the far side of Honington airfield then we could expect to be shot at!
A.T.C. are supposedly responsible for airfield safety and surface inspections but, back in the 70's, if we attempted to take the Landrover to a particular part, or two, of the far side of Honington airfield then we could expect to be shot at!
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Not long before they finally disappeared a bucc flew past the old tower at Kirkwall close enough for me to see the bone dome and oxygen mask of the driver. Reminded me of the old joke about the low flying complaint where the magistrate asked the witness,'Could you read the letters on the wing of the aeroplane?' ' Yes.' was the reply 'And what did it say?' Answer, 'No step.'
Not sure but I think '344 was the Bucc used by RAE Farnborough for voice operated control systems tests, hence the second stick might have been useful if the 'driver' had a frog in his throat!
As far as low flying goes, there was a superb film of a Bucc at RAE Bedford flying past the north side T2 hangar below rooftop level, and I can vaguely remember the 'retirement' flight of the last white painted Mk1 at Farnborough (just before the three new build S2s were delivered) which did a flypast through west area and was not visible from the tower as it was well below the trees!
COEF came running up the stairs and asked 'what does Mr A....k think he's doing? Honey Monster (the tower controller at the time) answered 'hairy beatups where sir won't see him? COEF replied 'well sir did see him!'
As far as low flying goes, there was a superb film of a Bucc at RAE Bedford flying past the north side T2 hangar below rooftop level, and I can vaguely remember the 'retirement' flight of the last white painted Mk1 at Farnborough (just before the three new build S2s were delivered) which did a flypast through west area and was not visible from the tower as it was well below the trees!
COEF came running up the stairs and asked 'what does Mr A....k think he's doing? Honey Monster (the tower controller at the time) answered 'hairy beatups where sir won't see him? COEF replied 'well sir did see him!'
Re. XV344, I think (but am not certain in case I'm shot down in flames here) it is the very same Bucc that the RAF pilot had problems landing on Ark Royal in the BBC 'Sailor' series.
By all accounts the real debrief he received from Keith Somerville-Jones post landing wasn't a jot like the one we all saw on the telly!
By all accounts the real debrief he received from Keith Somerville-Jones post landing wasn't a jot like the one we all saw on the telly!
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Buccs on the Indy
I did a couple of X decks on the 'windy' Indy -off North Cape and again in the Caribbean in 1975- my point of being there (I was a maintenance person) was to assist VA 65 (A6 Intruders) in turn round and handling the 2 Buccs that came over ( 2 x A6's to Ark in tandem) ....no problems of North Cape but in the Caribbean the 1st Bucc recovered nicely and cleared the wires - the 2nd Bucc did 4 bolters before diverting back to Ark !!- a certain very popular Flt Lt JB- I think 'Sailor' was filmed in 1976 - this was 1975 - so not being able to trap on what looked to me like a f****ing big deck compared with Ark wasn't without precedent 
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Stories and questions about flying through hangars appear from time, it would be interesting to know how they start.
There are a number of instances that were filmed the 20'and 30's with biplanes, but I have yet to see any verifiable evidence that anyone has done so since.
There are a number of instances that were filmed the 20'and 30's with biplanes, but I have yet to see any verifiable evidence that anyone has done so since.
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Tallmantz Aviation. Frank Tallman, who died in a Seneca crash, I believe, and Paul Mantz, who died after crashing the aircraft cobbled together in the original 'Flight of the Phoenix'
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Bucc Low Flying
In '73 I went on a visit from ASF at Honington to Brough and HoSM to view Bucc production and flight test operations. The weekend trip was arranged by Len ***?, the Blackburn rep at Honington. We visited Brough on the Saturday and went on to HoSM on the Sunday morning, being treated to an excellent pub lunch courtesy the 'costs plus' regime of the day.
Imagine our surprise on being met at Brough by Derek Whitehead, the Blackburn CTP and the chap who made the Bucc's first flight. Derek stayed with us for the whole of the visit and came into his own when we entered his 'patch' at HoSM on the Sunday morning.
He told us a lot about the various Buccaneer flight trials and also their proposals for the Buccaneer 2**. At the time he was also flight testing Phantoms from HoSM and when asked how the two types compared he said that the characteristics of the Buccaneer, especially the harmonisation of the controls, allowed it to be safely flown at high speed almost down to ground level. Of the Phantom, he said that its controls were not a patch on those of the Buccaneer and it was not safe to fly the Phantom anything like as low as the Buccaneer.
There are a number of Blackburn/HSA/BAe shots of a Buccaneer flying past below the height of the photagrapher, with a hangar as a backdrop. These were taken at HoSM with Derek flying the Bucc and the photographer stood on the control tower balcony. I believe that Derek is no longer with us, but what a legacy.
Imagine our surprise on being met at Brough by Derek Whitehead, the Blackburn CTP and the chap who made the Bucc's first flight. Derek stayed with us for the whole of the visit and came into his own when we entered his 'patch' at HoSM on the Sunday morning.
He told us a lot about the various Buccaneer flight trials and also their proposals for the Buccaneer 2**. At the time he was also flight testing Phantoms from HoSM and when asked how the two types compared he said that the characteristics of the Buccaneer, especially the harmonisation of the controls, allowed it to be safely flown at high speed almost down to ground level. Of the Phantom, he said that its controls were not a patch on those of the Buccaneer and it was not safe to fly the Phantom anything like as low as the Buccaneer.
There are a number of Blackburn/HSA/BAe shots of a Buccaneer flying past below the height of the photagrapher, with a hangar as a backdrop. These were taken at HoSM with Derek flying the Bucc and the photographer stood on the control tower balcony. I believe that Derek is no longer with us, but what a legacy.
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Deck landing aircraft had hydraulically powered hooks to keep the hook on the deck instead of bouncing and not going down again. The Hunter hook was gravity powered and hence useless on the deck.
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ISTR there was a Bucc-between-the-hangars sketch at Saints when the last Bucc came out of the MU there.
Can't remember the pilot's name, but I'm sure there was a painting of the incident in the TPs' crewroom at Saints.....
...... when Saints had TPs .....
Can't remember the pilot's name, but I'm sure there was a painting of the incident in the TPs' crewroom at Saints.....
...... when Saints had TPs .....