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Old 25th Sep 2008, 00:50
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Can I Have permission please?

Can I Have permission to post a question (and video) about a TSR2 landing please?

I done it in Spotters and only got one reply.

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Old 25th Sep 2008, 00:59
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I'll take that as a No then.

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Old 25th Sep 2008, 01:04
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Hell, I don't care, go ahead.

Not that you need my permission.
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Old 25th Sep 2008, 01:10
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This is a better vid IMO:- YouTube - TSR.2 Born To Bomb, Born To Die: The Ultimate TSR.2 Tribute
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Said to be often much easier to obtain forgiveness than permission.
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Old 25th Sep 2008, 06:21
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Do I remember one at Cranfield ?
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There is one at Duxford. Looks like it could fly. But it won't - ever

http://www.panoramio.com/photos/original/1443696.jpg
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What does 403 Forbidden mean ? Apart from forbidden 403 times.
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Old 25th Sep 2008, 08:07
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The TSR2 was cancelled, in part, because of exhorbitant cost beyond belief.

I note that the video in the fourth post compares TSR2 with Typhoon in a poor attempt at glorifying both projects. However, in terms of incomprehensibly gargantuan cost, that's a very good comparison.
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Old 25th Sep 2008, 08:34
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Panoramio - Photo of Duxford, TSR2 in Airspace
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Old 25th Sep 2008, 09:07
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The one at Cranfield was moved to Duxford in 1978. I remember it being taken apart for the move.
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A many times seen clip of TSR2 but I'm curious about the a/c's behavior between times 2.42 - 2.46.

YouTube - The BAC TSR-2


(You may have to go to You tube and search on The BAC TSR-2, it's the first vid that comes up)

I know very little about aircraft and would appreciate some explanation as to why the aircraft was 'leveled' after touching and also why the aircraft rolled to port whilst being leveled?

Please forgive my ignorance regarding terms and procedures regarding fixed wing.

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Old 25th Sep 2008, 17:47
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The only thing I can see that you might be refering to happens at about 3 minutes into the film.

It's a bouncy landing (not ideal) and the tendency is, on a bounce, to push the nose forwards (again, not ideal - many a nose wheel has taken the full brunt of a landing in this way because the pilot has pushed the nose down too far).

The roll is due to the direction of the wind. To stay on the centreline of the runway the left wing is dipped to allow for the push of the wind from the left.

C'est la.
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Good video. It looked to me like the landing was a bit fast. With a soft undercarriage that could lead to a bounce. You would then have to push forward on the stick to reduce the angle of attack and lift, being careful not to subsequently land nose wheel first. The roll would be due to the bounce off one wheel with the crosswind and the small wingspan causing a high roll rate with sensitive ailerons.
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Gosh! a thread moved from JetBlast.
I thought JB was as low as you could go?
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