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Old 2nd Aug 2008, 13:05
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Recycling Names

I was at a dinner last night and the (less than well informed) chap a couple of places down was singing the praises of the Typhoon - this isn't the uninformed bit. He then went on to say:

"And of course the Typhoon is the only military aircraft to re-use an historic name"

"Rubbish" sez I, and off the top of my head - and with wine taken - immediately came up with the following:

Lightning
Bulldog
Whirlwind
Tutor
Hawk?
Dominie

Even restricting it to British military - which was the context - there must be more.

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Manchester
Andover
Venom
Vampire

Globemaster (now up to 3)
Corsair

Mirage (made by Dassault but all different, sharing only a delta planfrom [where does that leave the F1?])

B26 (causes confusion still between the Martin and Douglas designs)
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Can`t find a military "Hawk" - but not to say there wasn`t one... (There was the Miles Hawk of course and the Nieuport Nighthawk)

Westland built a Wessex Airliner in the 30's and used by the RAF as a navigation trainer



I was hoping to add Vulcan to the list, but as far as I can make out the Vickers Vulcan (mid 20's) never saw military service .....
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Curtis Hawk. HERE
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Just U.K. Military use:

Nimrod....

Then with types that didn't quite make it in one case :

Tornado .....Hornet ..... Sea King....Firefly..Swift..Scimitar..Seagull...Harrier..Heron.. .Osprey...Oxford...Gazelle...Griffin...Wasp....

Some have been used three times e.g. Bulldog.....Firefly.....

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Texan and Thunderbolt have been used twice by the US military.
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COMET both the fastest of their time
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More wings but fewer engines...

Same manufacturer, same name: Armstrong Whitworth Argosy.
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Often wondered, Bristol Beaufighter, why? Did they think it and the Beaufort beautiful?
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Beaufighter was a contraction of Beaufort Fighter I thought.
One squadron had all of theirs named after famous characters;
Beau Geste, Beau Brummel etc.. , including my favourite..........

"Little Beau Peep"
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I do believe Tornado has been used before, for a Hawker product circa early 1940's precursor of the Tempest and Typhoon. Don't think it entered service.
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I do believe Tornado has been used before,
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HERE
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One squadron had all of theirs named after famous characters;
Beau Geste, Beau Brummel etc.. ,
After a heavy landing, they probably had one named "Beau Legged".
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What about the TSR2 ? Wasn't the original TSR2 the Fairey Swordfish ?
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Many thanks to all, now I can bore accurately at dinners!!

As an aside on Bristols, the Bristol Car Company - which began as an offshoot of the aircraft company - discovered a few years ago that they still held copyright on all the names ....

..... and produced (very expensive) four-wheeled Brigand and Beaufighter models.
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"And of course the Typhoon is the only military aircraft to re-use an historic name"
Apache
Iroquois
Lakota
Black Hawk

et al.

All pretty historic names reused, but for a very different reason.

(And yes, I know that's not exactly what he meant)

Magister ... Miles and Fouga

JAS
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The Westland Widgeon, fixed-wing of the 1920s.
The Westland Widgeon, rotary-wing of the 1950s.
The Grumman Widgeon, amphibian of the early 1940s.
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Globemaster I, II, III

Electra, Electra Junior, Super Electra (all twins)

Electra (L-188)

Orion

And a couple dozen Moths
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