World Record Holder G-BOAD Badly Damaged (Merged)
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HeathrowAirport, Sorry did not try to Gazzump your thread, I had originally posted in the Pilots forum unaware of your excellent item on her, but was moved to here. I to feel as you it is discusting the way she has been treated.
It is good to see someone so young passionate about our Aviation History.
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http://www.pprune.org/forums/aviatio...y-damaged.html
It is good to see someone so young passionate about our Aviation History.
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http://www.pprune.org/forums/aviatio...y-damaged.html
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What rubs salt in the wound is that G-BOAD was the best ship....
Always did the round the world chaters, was the Singapore Airlines half and half aircraft and holds some of the Concorde speed records....
Also the preferred crew training ship as the most reliable in the BA fleet.
A really sad story.
Do BA still own it ?
Always did the round the world chaters, was the Singapore Airlines half and half aircraft and holds some of the Concorde speed records....
Also the preferred crew training ship as the most reliable in the BA fleet.
A really sad story.
Do BA still own it ?
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Hey Guys,
especially "CityofFlight",
I was over in Seattle a couple of years ago, and since the Boeing machinists strike was on at the time, found time to visit the Boeing Museum.
The museum itself was really great, but across the road in the holding yard was a very different story...
The B747-100, the B727-200, the B737-100, the B707 (ex-AF1) and especially the ex-BA Concorde, I thought were in varying stages of decay, though the Concorde was marginally in better condition, there's no cover over there.
Having been through the Concorde displays at both La Borge Air Museum near Paris and at the Duxford Imperial Air Museum near Cambridge in England, I can say with confidence that the Seattle exhibit is both in the worst condition, and is the most difficult to see anything.
By that I mean all that clear perspex mounted inside absolutely everywhere, I couldn't actually see into the flight deck hardly at all, very disappointing!
I think only the French and British ones were housed undercover, though the British one only relatively recently!
Cheers...FD...
especially "CityofFlight",
I was over in Seattle a couple of years ago, and since the Boeing machinists strike was on at the time, found time to visit the Boeing Museum.
The museum itself was really great, but across the road in the holding yard was a very different story...
The B747-100, the B727-200, the B737-100, the B707 (ex-AF1) and especially the ex-BA Concorde, I thought were in varying stages of decay, though the Concorde was marginally in better condition, there's no cover over there.
Having been through the Concorde displays at both La Borge Air Museum near Paris and at the Duxford Imperial Air Museum near Cambridge in England, I can say with confidence that the Seattle exhibit is both in the worst condition, and is the most difficult to see anything.
By that I mean all that clear perspex mounted inside absolutely everywhere, I couldn't actually see into the flight deck hardly at all, very disappointing!
I think only the French and British ones were housed undercover, though the British one only relatively recently!
Cheers...FD...
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America - In the eyes of the world, you should be totally, utterly and completey ashamed of yourself ! ! ! I could do a better job of looking after her in my back garden. Shame on you . . .
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anartificialhorizon,
British Airways remains the legal owner of all seven G-BOA- Concorde airframes; they are effectively on loan (doubtless under various contracts) to where ever they are. Hence if the organisation which owns the USS Intrepid did indeed go belly-up, BA would have rights to come in & reclaim -AD; The Intrepid's owners would not be legally able to sell her to raise funds.
British Airways remains the legal owner of all seven G-BOA- Concorde airframes; they are effectively on loan (doubtless under various contracts) to where ever they are. Hence if the organisation which owns the USS Intrepid did indeed go belly-up, BA would have rights to come in & reclaim -AD; The Intrepid's owners would not be legally able to sell her to raise funds.
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Do you really think the Yanks care, the only aircraft that could replicate the Concord speed, distance and good looks was the SR71, sadly there was not much room for pax or trolly dollys, and the US Army Airforce needed legions of man to look after the thing.
Sorry but they didnt come up with the idea, nor did they have the Balls to build such a craft, so it may stay with a "Crumped Nose" for a long time!
Peter R-B ex pax in that one!!
Sorry but they didnt come up with the idea, nor did they have the Balls to build such a craft, so it may stay with a "Crumped Nose" for a long time!
Peter R-B ex pax in that one!!
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Originally Posted by Flight Detent
I think only the French and British ones were housed undercover, though the British one only relatively recently!
Not quite true... F-BVFA is under cover in the Smithsonian and G-BOAE is under cover in Barbados.
Neither is being under cover imperative... after all they were outside most of their lives.... BUT, it requires a lot more maintenance.
When that maintenance is forthcoming, the aircraft will last a long time.
Just look at G-BOAF at Filton or F-BVFC at Toulouse, both outside.
When it's not, the aircraft DO deteriorate.
F-WTSA at Orly is the worst example, with G-BOAD in NY now a close second.
Out of the 20 Concordes that flew, 18 are still around, surely a record....
Let's hope we can keep it that way!
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Just a shame East Fortune dumped all the other treasures that were in that hangar elsewhere in not so perfect conditions to allow concorde that luxury........
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What a waste !!
I flew in to Charles de Gaulle yesterday and noticed that Air France displays one of theirs on a plinth at the entrance to the airport.
As a nation do we not have any pride in our achievements ??
Sometimes I wonder.
As a nation do we not have any pride in our achievements ??
Sometimes I wonder.
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I say whoa!
Yes the a/c is damaged. It happens. The location of the NY Concorde is not ideal, but it is where it is. The damage appears to be the radome. Is that the radar scanner mount that can be seen in the photo? If so the bit behind it is the fwd pressure bulkhead. Therefore, it may well be that a new radome is required. I am sure that there are still spare radomes around?
Why do some folk seek the slightest opportunity on this site to slag folk off? Yup TIC stuff is great fun, and often entertaining, but in defence of our American cousins, not deserved on this occasion.
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Yes the a/c is damaged. It happens. The location of the NY Concorde is not ideal, but it is where it is. The damage appears to be the radome. Is that the radar scanner mount that can be seen in the photo? If so the bit behind it is the fwd pressure bulkhead. Therefore, it may well be that a new radome is required. I am sure that there are still spare radomes around?
Why do some folk seek the slightest opportunity on this site to slag folk off? Yup TIC stuff is great fun, and often entertaining, but in defence of our American cousins, not deserved on this occasion.
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yes sh!t does happen but you get it fixed or at least cover the exposed area FFS. Repaint in SQ colours and ship to SIN and I bet there would be a more than acceptable home for it where it wouldn't get bashed by anything short of an act of god.
yes sh!t does happen but you get it fixed or at least cover the exposed area FFS. Repaint in SQ colours and ship to SIN and I bet there would be a more than acceptable home for it where it wouldn't get bashed by anything short of an act of god.
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Try to look on the bright side. The Intrepid museum has never looked after G-BOAD adequately. If the organisation goes under, there will be a good chance that she will end up in the hands of an organisation that will treat her with respect.
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Concorde G-BOAD
I'm not sure if this is in the correct forum. If not, could the Mods oblige and re-site if necessary, but, has anyone any update on G-BOAD since it was damaged? Any repairs,etc? Any hope of getting it home? Anything?
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The last update taken from CONCORDE SST : LATEST NEWS
"Sources close to BA say that they not sure if this was accidental or deliberate damage to the aircraft.
Alpha Delta has sat neglected on an old airfield on the outskirts of the city, while her normal home at the Intrepid museum was being renovated. She was due to be returned in the autumn. The relationship between the Intrepid Museum and the sports complex who tenant the airfield apparently broke down many months back.
The aviator complex have appeared to lose interest in the aircraft, leading to the failure in the measures they had put in place to protect the aircraft.
British Airways are now taking a very keen interest in sorting out the issues surrounding the loan of the aircraft to the Intrepid Museum. The museum have a ten year long agreement running to 2013, but this requires certain conditions to be meet, which are obviously not currently being fulfilled presently and BA will want to know why.
Ex Concorde engineers have been discussing the plans for the aircraft's nose. These include repairing the original structure, should it still be in one piece, fabricating a new glass fibre nose cone, or shipping out the “spare” nose cone that BA have in their own Heathrow museum to the aircraft. The latter is presently seen as un-lightly as they last thing BA would want would be for the spare to be similarly damaged.
The BA engineering teams will have to ensure that no other damaged has occurred to the droop nose structure before new radome can be fitted, when this is inspected this will also provide an ideal opportunity to inspect further areas of the aircraft for deterioration.
The New York aviation enthusiast community are considering pulling together a team to look after this aircraft. Similarly to other museum enthusiastic teams of volunteers work very well and can make great strides in aircraft preservation."
"Sources close to BA say that they not sure if this was accidental or deliberate damage to the aircraft.
Alpha Delta has sat neglected on an old airfield on the outskirts of the city, while her normal home at the Intrepid museum was being renovated. She was due to be returned in the autumn. The relationship between the Intrepid Museum and the sports complex who tenant the airfield apparently broke down many months back.
The aviator complex have appeared to lose interest in the aircraft, leading to the failure in the measures they had put in place to protect the aircraft.
British Airways are now taking a very keen interest in sorting out the issues surrounding the loan of the aircraft to the Intrepid Museum. The museum have a ten year long agreement running to 2013, but this requires certain conditions to be meet, which are obviously not currently being fulfilled presently and BA will want to know why.
Ex Concorde engineers have been discussing the plans for the aircraft's nose. These include repairing the original structure, should it still be in one piece, fabricating a new glass fibre nose cone, or shipping out the “spare” nose cone that BA have in their own Heathrow museum to the aircraft. The latter is presently seen as un-lightly as they last thing BA would want would be for the spare to be similarly damaged.
The BA engineering teams will have to ensure that no other damaged has occurred to the droop nose structure before new radome can be fitted, when this is inspected this will also provide an ideal opportunity to inspect further areas of the aircraft for deterioration.
The New York aviation enthusiast community are considering pulling together a team to look after this aircraft. Similarly to other museum enthusiastic teams of volunteers work very well and can make great strides in aircraft preservation."